Crocus October-2012

[Rimmer de Vries]

Yes, I'd include Crocus oreocreticus as a possible cross .... or perhaps they are all oreocreticus variants?

here is another example that came as seed from C. thomasii that may be C. orecreticus or a cross of the two

Rimmer

[Janis Ruksans]

Just came from the country house, where some of my crocuses were in full bloom.
Have resized few pix to show in the forum.

crocus speciousus 'Cloudy Sky' (my selection).

After careful propagation from a single bulb I planted it in an open garden 2 years ago, where it felt very good and grew extremely vigorous. It grows upt to 25 sm tall, produces very bold tubes and big flowers. Very bold type and very showy, not mentioning its nice colouration.

Cloudy Sky is very good grower with me, too. Thank you, Zhirair. It is quite special for its creamy (not yellow) anthers and medium yellow throat.
I'm now in Greece where finally found Crocus speciosus - by flower quite typical but DNA will be needed to check its status due far isolation from other populations. It was my 4-th attempt to find it and finally succesful.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Zhirair,
Your goulimyi Mani White bed looks great!

I have some Crocus speciosus Cassiope which look strange. They acted the same way last year.
Virused? I would like to hear the experts opinion.

Crocus kotschyanus HKEP.9205
Crocus serotinus clusii Poseidon

Poul

Poul, you must to check leaves in spring. Don't like flower on third picture, but too little to see. Exerting of stigme - some clones are such - I have similar cancellatus, by the way - spectacular.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

are these wiggly leaves of C. laevigatus  a virus sympton?

Thanks Rimmer

Not easy to judge but I don't think that it is virus.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

last of the blooms of Crocus speciousus ssp. xantholaimos  from seed started fall 2008 

is this one correct? it  has yellow center,  or a hybrid again?

Rimmer

Looks true.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

As I haven't on my laptop programs for picture editing, now I'm attaching only one foto of Crocus speciosus in Western Greece (sorry, no more details, as it is extremely rare here). More pictures I will try to show next week when I will be in home.
Janis

[tonyg]

last of the blooms of Crocus speciousus ssp. xantholaimos  from seed started fall 2008 

is this one correct? it  has yellow center,  or a hybrid again?

Rimmer

Broad petals remind me of pulchellus but if none of the seedlings have white anthers then you most likely have true plant.  I cannot get pure seed from this here as it always hybridises with pulchellus and I do not have time to organise isolating them at present.

[Hans A.]

Some fantastic croci here!
Finally the first autumnflowering crocus in my garden: Crocus cambessedesii!
Apologies for poor picture quality, it was taken with the mobile phone.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

The picture may supposedly be poor, but the flower is exquisite, Hans !!

[Rimmer de Vries]

Crocus vallicola blooming on 8 Oct in a peat-silica sand bed.  This was started from Archibald seed in 2008 and the largest corm was replanted in this location in August 2012.  The seeds were grown in a woodsy soil mix in a sunken cold frame (bunker) with little to no frost.   Will C. vallicola survive outside through a zone 5 winter (-20F) in a damp location like this?

Thanks

Rimmer

[Rimmer de Vries]

Broad petals remind me of pulchellus but if none of the seedlings have white anthers then you most likely have true plant. 

here is a photo of the same seed lot of C. speciousus xantholaimos -photo taken on 8 Oct- no white anthers


I understand that the yellow center is the distinction of C. speciousus xantholaimos  from C. speciousus speciousus.  however the C. speciousus available on the marked from the Dutch bulb trade also have a yellow center but are larger and darker color.
 are these identified correctly?

Tanks again

Rimmer

[Rimmer de Vries]

These came as a seed lot identified as Crocus kotschyanus, but there are several plants that have a white base like Crocus kotschyanus leucopharynx.
do these Crocus kotschyanus forms interbreed or do they keep true?

Thanks

[udo]

Hans,
your Crocus cambessedesii looks wonderful.
Here some pictures from my garden:
Cr.boryi x tournefortii, thanks Tony G.
    caspius
    hadriaticus, selection with unusual colour
    hadriaticus x sativus 'Cashmerianus' F2 crosses in blue and white
a botanical sister: Romulea macowanii from S-Africa, a bit yellow between this only blue and white Crocusses

[Janis Ruksans]

These came as a seed lot identified as Crocus kotschyanus, but there are several plants that have a white base like Crocus kotschyanus leucopharynx.
do these Crocus kotschyanus forms interbreed or do they keep true?

Thanks

Seedlings of leucopharynx split in true leucopharynx and typical kotschyanus.
Janis

[Hans A.]

The picture may supposedly be poor, but the flower is exquisite, Hans !!

Thanks  a lot Luc and Dirk, I think this Crocus is worth a better picture.