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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2012, 09:03:32 AM »
Hello,

Crocos niveus or goulimyi leucanthus?
Crocus goulimyi leucanthus I think.  I can see your dilemma, but the leaves and bracts suggest goulimyi.  In the flower, the absence of yellow in the throat and the style are also typical of goulimyi.  Niveus has yellow throat and more simple three branched orange style.

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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2012, 11:31:02 AM »
I agree with Tony - an albino form of C. goulimyi. Whether C. goulimyi subsp. leucanthus actually exists is an open question; I have never seen an adequate definition of the taxon or how this supposed subspecies  differs from C. goulimyi.
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2012, 02:26:53 PM »
I agree with Tony - an albino form of C. goulimyi. Whether C. goulimyi subsp. leucanthus actually exists is an open question; I have never seen an adequate definition of the taxon or how this supposed subspecies  differs from C. goulimyi.
I'm with Gerry on the vagueries of this 'form'.  Use of the name for pale/white forms seems common but it may just be a localised variant rather than a distinct subspecies.

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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2012, 03:05:52 PM »
Thanks for your identifications!

It is labelled goulimyi leucanthus, but the flowers are remarkable bigger than ordinary goulimyi. So I was a little bit nervous. Niveus is not yet above ground here!
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2012, 10:00:30 PM »
Crocus Boryi which opened yesterday and fully opened today in the heat and sunshine...although 1 flower got eaten off by a snail overnight ! :(

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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2012, 09:46:20 AM »
Very nice Crocus everyone !
Here some of two weeks ago ....Crocus autranii (pic 1,2,3,4) and banaticus in the garden.
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2012, 09:07:20 PM »
Just came from the country house, where some of my crocuses were in full bloom.
Have resized few pix to show in the forum.

crocus speciousus 'Cloudy Sky' (my selection).

After careful propagation from a single bulb I planted it in an open garden 2 years ago, where it felt very good and grew extremely vigorous. It grows upt to 25 sm tall, produces very bold tubes and big flowers. Very bold type and very showy, not mentioning its nice colouration.
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #52 on: October 14, 2012, 09:13:07 PM »
Very nice, Zhirair. Love the colours!
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #53 on: October 14, 2012, 09:13:16 PM »
other pictures

crocus goulimyi 'Mani White' (overwinters very well in an open garden in our climate under snow cover, surviving the temp. -25 C)
crocus serotinus ssp. salzmanii (vigorous form)
crocus niveus (grown from seed, again overwinters quite well)
crocus pulchellus 'Zephyr'
crocus pulchellus 'Zephyr' and speciousus 'Cloudy Sky' (in the background)
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2012, 09:59:04 PM »
Very nice and healthy looking Crocus Zhirair .

Here Crocus gilanicus in flower today .
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2012, 08:39:23 AM »
Zhirair,
Your goulimyi Mani White bed looks great!

I have some Crocus speciosus Cassiope which look strange. They acted the same way last year.
Virused? I would like to hear the experts opinion.

Crocus kotschyanus HKEP.9205
Crocus serotinus clusii Poseidon

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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2012, 03:58:15 PM »
Zhirair, wonderful groups of Crocussses!

Poul, wouldn't know if those Cassiope's are virused...it's a comical view though  ::)

Two Crocusses which are flowering here today:

Crocus medius 'Millesimo' (= Crocus ligusticus 'Millesimo')
and Crocus speciosus 'Pollux'
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2012, 07:14:12 PM »
Lovely crocus from everybody, a pleasure for the eyes 8)

Zhirair,
I like your speciousus 'Cloudy Sky'. I seems it has a nice yellow throat.
Is that a common feature in the wild population around your area? Our is it possibly a hybrid (evt. pulchellus)?
What are your assumptions?

Poul,
Crocus kotschyanus HKEP.9205 is lovely with its whitish style. A very nice one!
Best wishes
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2012, 03:16:05 PM »
A couple of mine. I have had lots in bud but no sun or warmth to open them and they just elongate and fall over

Crocus cancellatus ssp pamphylicus
Crocus pulchellus
Crocus nerimaniae
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Re: Crocus October-2012
« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2012, 05:37:03 PM »
This dryland crocus opened today for the first time from 2009 planting of seeds from the NARGS seed exchange.  Seed came as Crocus thomasii but this looks more like a form of C. pallasii.  can anyone tell me if this one is a specific subspecies of C. pallasii.

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