Iris and some Irids 2009

[Lesley Cox]

I've just had a look at an Old Forum page from 2005 and found among other lovely things, Iris goniocarpa. It looks just about the same as my I. barbatula. Are they synonyms?

[Regelian]

Lesley,

I. goniocarpa Baker is a pseudoregelia and thus not closely related to I. barbatula from sub-genus Nepalensis, according to Köhlein.  More I have not found and, as I. barbatula is described only about 10 years ago, there is little cultural info. Could it be that the foto you found is incorrectly labeled?  I've never seen a foto of I. goniocarpa and it is not listed in the SIGNA species data base.

[Maggi Young]

http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/141/14820.html
 is the page in the Old Forum and here is the photo posted there by Cliff, from the show ( it is not his plant)


Iris goniocarpa (??)

[arillady]

Fred you may have seen Iris stolonifera used on the 2004 ASI Yearbook cover. Rafa great photos - I have a young seed grown plantlet; and a rhizome from Marcus Harvey - if it has survived summer. Looking forward to flowering this strangely coloured regelia

[Lesley Cox]

And here is my I. barbatula. Maybe IT is wrongly named. I've had it for 10 years, from a local nursery and under that name. I couldn't find a reference to it either in Kohlein or Mathew.





Culturally it is easy, planted out in a gritty, slightly damp raised bed, with such as sino-ornata type gentians, small primulas, hacquetia, Trillium rivale, dwarf rhodos and the like. I've divided it 3 times into about 20 pieces , for the nursery and have had seed 3 times as well. It bulks up again quickly after dividing which I've done in spring, before it starts to come through. It flowers early summer (Late Nov/early Dec). The flowers are stemless, right at the base of the plant and the seed pods are at ground level. I love it.

[Lesley Cox]

Apart from a little more white on mine, they look incredibly similar. Pity I can't see more of the leaves on Cliff's image.

[arillady]

Lesley thank you for the envelope that arrived this week.
Another site that you might like to check is the SIGNA website for the iris in question.

[Regelian]

Lesley,

I agree with you, they look to be the same species.  Perhaps the description for I. barbatula, from 1995, is actually a synonym, but I have the feeling that the goniocarpa plant may have actually been I. barbatula, which may have been described from this specimen!  I'll drop a note to Dennis Kramb and Harald Mathes, perhaps they can clear the air.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

A bit late seeing it but I need to say this :
Rafa,  your I. stolonifera is truly wonderful !!! 

Lesley,
Keeping my fingers crossed for germination of the I. barbatula seed...    Thanks again 

[WimB]

One of the small Irisses is flowering now:

Iris attica

[Paul T]

And as I have said in the other Iris topics as I have caught up with them..... fantastic pics everyone.  Thanks.  Only checked a couple of pages in this topic as too many to catch up on..... love that stolonifera and that beautiful one from Lesley, whichever name it is. 

Thanks again for all the wonderful viewing everyone.

[Rafa]

Lesley, talking about Iris barbatula, I received a suprise from you some seeds of your plants!, MANY THANKS!

I am trying to get all forms possibles from Iris stolonifera, as it is my favourite Iris, but I am not sure if many names like Network, Sina Dark, Turkish Dancer etc... are hybrids or just natural selections with particular characters... this confuses me a lot with all those terrible hybrids names  , I prefer to use simple names Iris stolonifera f. dark (coll. Sina) or Iris stolonifera f. bicolor (coll. etc...

[SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE]

I hope I'm not intruding on this page, but I must just show you that I grow one or two little bits other than Saxifrage. With it nice and warm today my Iris Afganica burst into flower.
Best Wishes David.

[SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE]

This close up is a little better, picked the wrong one.
David 

[Miriam]

WOW
magnificent Iris!!