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Armin

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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #240 on: February 19, 2010, 09:16:29 PM »
Michael,
nice photos. C. chrysanthus "Zenith" is a nice coloured cultivar breed by P.B. van Eden.
I got it last year and I'm excited how it does in my garden.

What size is your C. vernus ssp. albiflorus? Is it seed raised?
I have seen this nice color combination in the wild on C. vernus ssp. albiflorus but the style seems to be longer then the anthers in the picture and the nominat form in the wild (Swiss) has smaller pedals...
Both would indicate a hybrid with C. vernus...

Dutch selections (Tubergen):
"Form B" is to my knowledge "white flowers with blue throat/stem" and "Form A" "pure white".
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #241 on: February 19, 2010, 09:21:32 PM »
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What size is your C. vernus ssp. albiflorus? Is it seed raised?

Armin, I got it from Janis so he  must have raise it from seed.

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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #242 on: February 19, 2010, 09:50:19 PM »
Michael,
if it is half the size of a dutch vernus hybrid and if the style is shorter then anthers it is surely C. vernus ssp. albiflorus. ;) Nice anyway :D
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #243 on: February 19, 2010, 09:55:16 PM »
Armin, I have just checked my file and I see that  Janis told me last year that it was a blue form,and that I should change the label,obviously I never did.

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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #244 on: February 19, 2010, 10:31:40 PM »
such a good day today and I took no photos  :( way too busy tidying
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #245 on: February 19, 2010, 11:00:44 PM »
a couple of crocus reticulatus in flower today

the first Crocus reticulatus ssp reticulatus with yellow anthers

second Crocus reticulatus ssp hittiticus which has black anthers and is much less common. I have no doubt this will be named as a 'new species' before long.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #246 on: February 19, 2010, 11:16:51 PM »
second Crocus reticulatus ssp hittiticus which has black anthers and is much less common. I have no doubt this will be named as a 'new species' before long.
You old cynic you 
I'm sure I've already seen it named as Crocus hittiticus
Us lumpers must stick together .....  ;)

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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #247 on: February 19, 2010, 11:22:15 PM »
You old cynic you 
I'm sure I've already seen it named as Crocus hittiticus
Us lumpers must stick together .....  ;)

Maybe you will want to weigh in on splitters vs. lumpers here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5041.0
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #248 on: February 20, 2010, 05:39:51 PM »
second Crocus reticulatus ssp hittiticus which has black anthers and is much less common. I have no doubt this will be named as a 'new species' before long.
You old cynic you 
I'm sure I've already seen it named as Crocus hittiticus
Us lumpers must stick together .....  ;)

After long break again checked last entries on Forum. Outside horrible snowstorm and roads are closed so I can't reach nursery. Too busy all the time revising my Crocus book manuscript after editing at Timber Press.
At present only short remark about Crocus reticulatus.
In my book I'm regarding subsp. hitticus at species level as Crocus hittiticus as it was described initially by Baytop & Mathew . As both subsp. are quite distant on phylogenetic tree, I suppose that better to space them as different species.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #249 on: February 20, 2010, 08:49:27 PM »
That hittiticus is spectacular Tony 8)

Crocus biflorus alexandrii doesn't have any yellow, so Willem's cultivar seems to be a hybrid with another, yellow throated, biflorus form. In the following photo it can be seen well.
Perhaps, Ashley, you could post a photo of your plant from the inside?

Further to the biflorus ssp 'alexandri' I posted a few days ago (Page 13, reply #191) here's a view inside. According to Mathew this should have 'throat with no yellow coloration' so is more likely to be a hybrid or cultivar as suggested by Thomas & Janis.  Which one I don't know.

By coincidence the lovely potful of biflorus alexandri Ian shows in this week's Bulblog includes one with a yellow throat (the plant on the far left).  Could this fall within the normal range of variation or is it a stray?
« Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 11:04:04 AM by ashley »
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #250 on: February 20, 2010, 09:25:43 PM »
Ashley

thank you for the comment it is a lovely thing although very small.

As to Crocus biflorus alexandri I looked at mine,I have several, and none had a yellow throat. Mathew states it does not have a yellow throat in 'The Crocus'
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #251 on: February 20, 2010, 10:13:05 PM »
Out today in the warm sunshine - C. tommasinianus albus (with curious tiny marks on the petals), and C. t. Bobbo, a favourite of mine.
Also, the scent from C fleischeri was beautiful.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #252 on: February 21, 2010, 06:56:41 AM »
Some days ago I opened for some minutes my covering of Crocus pots in greenhouse to check how they look. View was quite good only in some pots was some Penicillium on flowers which were not picked off at covering time, but they all were easy cleanable. All pots were frosen up to bottom and even undersoil on raised beds were frosen. To check overwintering I brought inside home and put on windowsill of my office a pair of pots - C. serotinus salzmannii (had yellow leaf tips but this pot was without any covering, left out of bed on table and so exposed to all frosts) and Crocus speciosus x pulchellus 'Big Boy' (heavy penicillium on shoots).  I took of infected cataphylls on 'Big Boy' and now it started nice development of leaves and seem that no damage had. C. serotinus seem to be frost killed, but few shoots seem that will come up. Of course they can die later but it will not be great loss, as the pot was took out of bed as suspected for virus infection. All the night was heavy snowstorm and it was difficult to open outer doors for great snow heap in front of entry. For next weekend are offered first zero or even minor plus degrees for the first time since mid-December, may be finally spring will come and will be possible to show you some fresh pictures. At present it is even difficult to reach greenhouse entry - snow level is up to crotch and I'm driving by tractor to forest side and my orchard to bring there hay and some boxes with apples for does (roe dears), regardless of eaten bulb leaves (mostly Muscari) in late autumn.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #253 on: February 22, 2010, 10:06:50 PM »
First flower on a seedling from 'Hubert Edelsten'  sown in June 2007
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #254 on: February 22, 2010, 10:13:17 PM »
Roma,
a lovely one! Congratulations.
 
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