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Crocus November 2013
« on: November 02, 2013, 06:56:43 PM »
A good start in the new month:
Crocus cartwrightianus, Greece
    ''      hyemalis, Israel
    ''      longiflorus, Malta
    ''      oreocreticus 'Albus'
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2013, 07:27:50 PM »
This one is in flower today at a friend's in the Annapolis Valley.  Anyone care to hazard a guess?

So sparse despite a very good bake this past summer.

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« Last Edit: November 02, 2013, 07:31:22 PM by johnw »
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2013, 07:45:14 PM »
John,
this is Crocus sativus.
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2013, 05:59:12 PM »
A good start in the new month:
Crocus cartwrightianus, Greece
    ''      hyemalis, Israel
    ''      longiflorus, Malta
    ''      oreocreticus 'Albus'

Very fine selection Dirk ! Do you grow the cartwrightianus in the garden ?
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2013, 06:47:36 PM »
Very fine selection Dirk ! Do you grow the cartwrightianus in the garden ?
Many thanks, Kris.
I have a pot with selections from Crocus cartwrightianus in the greenhouse. Other plants growing in open garden. I think, this species is very hardy for a wintergreen Crocus.
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2013, 08:52:27 PM »
Many thanks, Kris.
I have a pot with selections from Crocus cartwrightianus in the greenhouse. Other plants growing in open garden. I think, this species is very hardy for a wintergreen Crocus.

Thanks Dirk , must plant some in the garden in the future ........
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 08:56:24 PM »
Crocus kotschyanus from Janis . Keeps flowering (started on my birthday : 17/10) and stil going.
The first  bulb already finished and in leaves, the second one give second flower .
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2013, 08:59:35 PM »
Crocus kotschyanus from Janis . Keeps flowering (started on my birthday : 17/10) and stil going.
The first  bulb already finished and in leaves, the second one give second flower .

Same story with C. pulchellus ......very floriferous ..
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2013, 09:02:45 PM »
Bouhgt as C. mathewii but it isn't .....
Grows very good in the garden , gives a lot of flowers but the rain damaged most of them this year .
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2013, 09:07:03 PM »
Also reliable in our garden : C. goulimyi .
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2013, 09:10:08 PM »
Crocus laevigatus  .
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 06:22:07 AM »
Bouhgt as C. mathewii but it isn't .....
Grows very good in the garden , gives a lot of flowers but the rain damaged most of them this year .

Why you think that it isn't mathewii? Throat colour in C. mathewii can be very variable and I have similar plants, too. Only style branches looks too short but this can varie from plant to plant and from season to season. Corm tunics different?
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 06:03:22 PM »
Why you think that it isn't mathewii? Throat colour in C. mathewii can be very variable and I have similar plants, too. Only style branches looks too short but this can varie from plant to plant and from season to season. Corm tunics different?
Janis

Hi Janis and other Crocus- friends , thanks for your reply Janis .I am always happy with some help on such matters ....I cal it not mathewii anymore because I got some reactions in previous years  ....
Here some remarks from 2012 on this forum : 

1/Sorry, Kris,
I don't think that it is mathewii. May be some form of plaasii, although they are very close. In my mind mathewii allways associates with distinctly purple coloration - more or less large - in throat or white in albino. It is grey on your sample and I have several such pallasii in my collection.

2/Kris, i think your Crocus mathewii is a hadriaticus-Hybrid
I see a bit yellow inside and also outside from the flower.
Crocus mathewii and pallasii have never yellow. Also the leaves looks like more
in direction hadriaticus .

3/Furthermore the anthers seem to be whitish - I have seen this anther-colour in hadriaticus hybrids in my garden.

I would be more happy if it would be mathewii after al .....I paid for mathewii  (it is not one I bought from your nursery Janis )  and also its maybe for me more rewarding to grow it like that  ...........

I have some pictures from the corms , I post them as soon as possible .
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 06:20:47 PM »
Why you think that it isn't mathewii? Throat colour in C. mathewii can be very variable and I have similar plants, too. Only style branches looks too short but this can varie from plant to plant and from season to season. Corm tunics different?
Janis

Found this picture from the corms ..A picture I made last summer .
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Re: Crocus November 2013
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2013, 09:12:24 PM »
It's getting frosty overnight in Aberdeen now. Here is my pot of Mathewii.

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