Crocus November 2013

[krisderaeymaeker]

finally we are having some sun after a cold week.
Crocus oreocreticus the purple striped ones -from NARGS seed started in 2008- are these true or a hybrid form?
Crocus ochroleucus - the white ones
Rimmer

As always you showed us very fine Cocus Rimmer . Always enjoy your pictures . I think the oreocreticus is true .At least to me it looks like the ones we did see in Crete ....

[krisderaeymaeker]

Chris i grow them both, bulbframe for security and open for "kamicase" tries !!!

Thanks Dominique . Is it kamikaze in your region ? Am I right ? , you live near Dijon ? I was thinking that maybe the climate there is good enough for some of those ? But ofcourse I don't know enough about your winters ,summers ,rainfal  ...

[ian mcenery]

just got back from the Delphi area on from a flower point of view a quite useless trip as the rain is a month late and the area is burnt dry.However some wonderful walking in superb surroundings. Needless to say it poured down on my last day when I found some nice-

Crocus robertianus

Lovely Tony

[Rimmer de Vries]

thank you for the comments on the Crocus oreocreticus.
I question because last fall, i had doubts on some of these seedlings.  Seed that came as C. thomasii also bloomed like these striped C. oreoreticus.  The seed came from a donor with a large collection in Oregon, so i think there was some hybridizing in the donors garden.  However this season only one corm bloomed in this pot, i must have lost the others from too much sun and heat under a glass pane over the frame and no water this summer.

[Janis Ruksans]

thank you for the comments on the Crocus oreocreticus.
I question because last fall, i had doubts on some of these seedlings.  Seed that came as C. thomasii also bloomed like these striped C. oreoreticus.  The seed came from a donor with a large collection in Oregon, so i think there was some hybridizing in the donors garden.  However this season only one corm bloomed in this pot, i must have lost the others from too much sun and heat under a glass pane over the frame and no water this summer.

I baught from quite prominent grower 10 oreocreticus and all turned hybrids. This year I got compensation and only 3 were more or less as oreocreticus. Now I'm growing only stock from originally wild collected seeds. I showed picture of them (Cave of Zeus seedlings) in October's entry.
Janis

[Arda Takan]

I think a Crocus palasii palasii.
Taken in the wild.

[Janis Ruksans]

It is pallasii. Which subspecies? Must to see tunics, but by flower looks as type subspecies

[Arda Takan]

I don't know Janis, this crocus is everywhere in Eskisehir.
Ibrahim once told me that one of crocus I showed to him was crocus pallasii ssp. pallasii

[Janis Ruksans]

Horrible autumn. Now are blooming Crocus hittiticus and punctatus has long leaves and bud inside. Flowers are tightly closed due very dark weather. No drop of temperature proposed for following week. Blooms two tulips from Kazahstan and Narcissus bulbocodium. What will be in spring?
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

I don't know Janis, this crocus is everywhere in Eskisehir.
Ibrahim once told me that one of crocus I showed to him was crocus pallasii ssp. pallasii

Ibrahim very well know Turkish crocuses, you can trust him 100%.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Today sun came out and it was possible to make some pictures. I'm starting with spring blooming Crocus hittiticus - on first picture it is in morning, on second - early afternoon. Putting names on pictures I found that in 2011 I pictured this stock even earlier - 11th of November. Here it started blooming earlier, too, only weatherr was too dark for pictures.
Nicely blooms Crocus aleppicus collected some years ago in Israel.
Most of Crocus boryi finished blooming, but still left this one of form with striped back of petals
Last in this entry - Crocus cambessedesii - wild collection.

[Janis Ruksans]

Peak of blooming has Crocus melantherus. Here view of pots and then some aquisitions. Some pictured in first half of day and later in early afternoon when sun warmed up air.

[Janis Ruksans]

Some more Crocus melantherus. On picture 14 specimen got from John Fielding as possibly double. Last autumn it formed sem-double flowers, this year only one flower (on picture) had more petals, others were with "normal" 6 flower segments

[Janis Ruksans]

Another late bloomer is Crocus laevigatus. Here forms from mainland and small islands of Greece.

[Arda Takan]

Just perfect.