Great link Davey - nice to see pictures of 'Emma Thick' (a member on here) and JMBS-7B2-6 (also found by a member on here)John they are really special,JMBS-7B2-6 what a find that was and really could do with a name JMBS-7B2-6 just does not do it credit.
Great link Davey - nice to see pictures of 'Emma Thick' (a member on here) and JMBS-7B2-6 (also found by a member on here)
Does anybody no the back story to how the drop was named after Emma i love the back stories if that's the right term,Maggie you just need one named after you or more correctly a crocus.Great link Davey - nice to see pictures of 'Emma Thick' (a member on here) and JMBS-7B2-6 (also found by a member on here)
Remarkable how many great galanthophiles there are in "these parts", eh? 8)
I don't think I knew that Emma T had a 'drop with her name..... :) 8)
I don't think I knew that Emma T had a 'drop with her name..... :) 8)
Great link Davey - nice to see pictures of 'ex Emma Thick' (a member on here) and 'JMBS-7B2-6' (also found by a member on here)Just got round to looking at this, the JMBS-7B2-6 is absolutely gorgeous, so elegant.
Still no catalogue here - but someone has sent me a scan of it luckily. 8)John there are some fantastic drops on there,Ronald Mackenzie did it for me,stunning.
I was wondering what Galanthus 'Fiona MacKenzie' looked like as I have never seen one. I stumbled across these rather excellent Galanthus photograph pages via a web search.
http://www.clivenichols.com/cgi-bin/stephen_johnson/database/imageFolio.cgi?search=GALANTHUS&img=0&cat=&bool=phrase
he is asking for bids for Galadriel but its available in Ebay
Who is Glen Chantry?Glen Chantry is not a "who", Loes, it's a place.......it is the lovely home of Snowdrop specialists Sue and Wol Staines... it is no longer open to the public but you can see some photos here in the Forum : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3698.0 and on their old website..... http://www.glenchantry.demon.co.uk/
Is this a private party or can anyone join..?Ann, as I said in the 'Snowdrop prices' thread the other day : all Monksilver contact details are on this page http://www.monksilvernursery.co.uk/2.html ..... that's what they're on about! ;)
Steve aren't you on Joe's mailing list?
Steve aren't you on Joe's mailing list?Mark
>I am hoping to go the Wisley Garden Snowdrop Splendour tomorrow - wanted to go today but my sister turned up unexpectedly.
>They were selling Green Brush but I will stand no chance of getting one on the second day. Maybe another year....
There were plenty available late on the Sunday...
Yes I managed to get there on Sunday for the last lecture and I managed to get a Green Brush :) It did not look as green tipped as I expected though from photos I have seen of it. Good Grief - you must have been there the same time as me? My eyes could not focus on the labels and I never had my reading glasses so I was in a right flap and had to ask Simon Lockyer to help me find the plants I was after! How embarrassing. I took a few photos and if any are decent I will try to post them.
What's the origin of 'Green Brush'?
It seems to be a lovely snowdrop that's become available without the help of the 'high priests' of the snowdrop world............ie Morley & Mackenzie.
Hi Em, Avon soon sold out of 'Green Brush'.
I'm pretty sure I saw it when I visited Avon bulbs last February in one of their frames. They were beautiful but not for sale :'(
M
Mark - those photos of Tiny Tim are lovely. I bought 'Tiny' from Beth Chatto last year & it seems there is confusion over 'Tiny Tim' and 'Tiny'. Does anyone know if they are different or one of the same? If G nivalis Charlotte is even smaller it must be miniscule :)
Jennie
this and 'Tiny Tim'...seem hopelessly muddled...We have not detected any differences between 'Tiny Tim'and 'Tiny'
If G nivalis Charlotte is even smaller it must be miniscule :)
I know that we have a Galanthus nivalis Charlotte over here found by Jan Huisman and named it after his granddaughter. Its a single nivalis which gives a lot of flowers from a the smallest bulbsize! In clumps it looks the best.
Gerard - Is your website down?My new website is online if you google on www.sneeuwklokjes.info it should appear.
johnw
If G nivalis Charlotte is even smaller it must be miniscule :)
Last year I received a Galanthus nivalis Charlotte, or at least I thought that was what it is called and I think the label agrees with me, though it's a bit difficult to read. However this is a poculiform snowdrop, which I'm certain was its distinguishing feature, rather than size (or lack of it). Can anyone clarify. I cannot find "Charlotte" in The Book and my Charlotte would be too recent for the current edition, being a contemporary of Green Light found in 2004 and distributed by Joe Sharman.
Here it is Jennie:
http://www.pcnijssen.nl/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1530
Hi all
I missed Green Brush and Selbourne Green Tips with Avon - they sold out very quickly. My Green Tips from Wisley (via W&S Lockyer) look very healthy and I will post a photo when they flower. I also got G. Charlotte which is supposed to be tinier than Tiny Tim and G Snow White. The pots had multiple bulbs in some up to 3 bulbs which made up for the rather higher prices. Does anyone grow these?
On display they had a lovely pot of G Penelope Ann - the flowers were huge.
Jennie
Here it is Jennie:
http://www.pcnijssen.nl/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1530
Thanks Brian - it does not look anything to get over excited about but I will be interested to see how it compares in size to a normal nivalis. A cute little one for the edge of one of my raised woodland borders though.
I wonder if anyone can advise me. Being a plantaholic my shady borders do not have much space :) Is it advisable to plant snowdrops among named varieties of Anemone nemerosa, Ajuga (the usual purple one), Cardamine quinquefolia (it comes and goes pretty quickly)? I also have loads of different types of Epimediums (some do not run very quickly and stay clumped ie E sempervirens and davidii) and between clumps of Alchemilla mollis?
If not some plants will have to be moved ??? I am slowly making new areas for snowdrops but would also like to incorporate them into my existing plantings.
thanks Jennie
Epimedium, cardamine and alchemilla would be, in my opinion and experience, very unsuitable companions for snowdrops. They, three, are vigorous, spreading and edimedium and alchemilla have impenetrable root systems and no snowdrop would come through them.
Paddy
Galanthus Sophie North anyone?
............. As you can see, it is a nice poculiform nivalis......
.... so not truly poculiform?
.... so not truly poculiform?
You're becoming a bit of a snowdrop perfectionist, Maggi. The term poculiform tends to be used loosely for any snowdrop that is semi or wholly poculiform. For example, Galanthus Angelique is frequently described as poculiform, despite being a good deal less so than this one.
Actually, referring to an authority here http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/2010/03/poculiform-snowdrops.html , maybe I should have written "Poculiformis Group"?
...Avon soon sold out of 'Green Brush'.
...Avon soon sold out of 'Green Brush'.
Gerard Oud has some examples of Green Brush for sale on eBay. He is the source of this cultivar, I believe.
...Avon soon sold out of 'Green Brush'.
Gerard Oud has some examples of Green Brush for sale on eBay. He is the source of this cultivar, I believe.
Yes I'm sure I read somewhere that he supplied 50 Green Brush to Avon bulbs last year. Avon where selling them for £15 before they sold out.
I did have some before on Ebay, but i had not noticed UK is no part of Europe according to Ebay!
...Avon soon sold out of 'Green Brush'.
Gerard Oud has some examples of Green Brush for sale on eBay. He is the source of this cultivar, I believe.
Yes I'm sure I read somewhere that he supplied 50 Green Brush to Avon bulbs last year. Avon where selling them for £15 before they sold out.
Gerard told us that himself yesterday, on page six of this thread ....http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6179.msg185047#msg185047 ;D
I know that we have a Galanthus nivalis Charlotte over here found by Jan Huisman and named it after his granddaughter. Its a single nivalis which gives a lot of flowers from a the smallest bulbsize! In clumps it looks the best.
My "Charlotte" was found and named by Joe Sharman; I was there at the time of the discovery. I checked the label and it definitely says "Charlotte". I cannot find it in his list for 2009 or 2011 and I cannot find his list for 2010 so I cannot tell if he has ever sold it under that name.
Got my order from Foxgrove Plants today. I made the order just to buy Greenish.....and guess what.....Greenish was the only one I never got!! I was happy with G lagodechianus though - what a sweet little snowdrop. I like the species snowdrops and so far have 5 different ones.
Jennie
Alan, I noticed that MrOHowes was selling Charlotte some time last week on ebay ..... I wonder which Charlotte that was? Very confusing and maybe Joe should slightly change the name ie. Elegant Charlotte, Charlotte's Choice etc etc.
Alan, I noticed that MrOHowes was selling Charlotte some time last week on ebay ..... I wonder which Charlotte that was? Very confusing and maybe Joe should slightly change the name ie. Elegant Charlotte, Charlotte's Choice etc etc.
Since MrOHowes is evidently an associate of Joe Sharman, without doubt it would have been Joe Sharman's Charlotte. I cannot find my copy of his 2010 sales list where I think it may have been described.
On Amazon a new copy can be obtained for £45.
I dont know for sure because its not mine, but what i know its grown from seed. Elwesii are rather variable, but last year i bought the biggest bulbs he had grown and they were all good!
I dont know for sure because its not mine, but what i know its grown from seed. Elwesii are rather variable, but last year i bought the biggest bulbs he had grown and they were all good!
Gerard, am I correct in thinking that you're saying Green Brush IS a seed-grown strain and NOT a clone?
Are any bulbs actually raised from seed? I would not have thought this was an efficient mode of propagation, even if they came true from seed (which in itself would be very rare)
Are any bulbs actually raised from seed? I would not have thought this was an efficient mode of propagation, even if they came true from seed (which in itself would be very rare)A great many bulbs come true from seed and it is one of the best ways to keep a healthy population and keep vigour in one's bulb collection to keep raising them from seed.... not to mention the benefit in cleaning up any stocks one has the misfortune to get with a virus. And, of course, the fact that seed raised plants of any kind will tend, by each generation, to be more adapted to your conditions.
So it doesn't seem very likely anyone has succeeded in finding/breeding a snowdrop cultivar that comes remotely true from seed.
Once a stable population is established then a percentage acceptable to cultivar recogniton can also be found.That's something which does not appear to be the case with many snowdrops,
Are any bulbs actually raised from seed? I would not have thought this was an efficient mode of propagation, even if they came true from seed (which in itself would be very rare)
Continuing on from the 'Green Brush' chatter. I can't offer a photograph from my garden as the one I purchased last year didn't survive until this year :'( But here are a couple of photographs I took of 'Green Brush' yesterday.
Martin I dont know exactly about the English breedingterms and words you use. But what i was told, my colleage got it from his friends father who did Galanthus and Lillie breeding. Green Brush is the product of breeding and is no clone but a hybride. They selected the seedlings and Green Brush was found. The Green Brush from Avon were supplied by Dix export.
If they had bought them from me, they would have had the biggest and best ;D
is this Stag?
Now i know what you mean Martin! All Green brush are from one single bulb!
If you read it well i said indeed this year and not last year!
I hope everything is clear now ;D
everyone a nice weekend ;D
is this Stag?
You need to inspect the bulb. A healthy bulb should look white if you wash it and rub off the dead outer layers as necessary. And it should have a good root system. A bulb with Stagonospora will not come completely clean or will be stained. It will probably have few roots. In a bad case the ends of the leaves look as if they have been burned.
Galanthus nivalis 'Charlotte'
Belongs to: 8 Galanthus Imperial Group.
An incredible flowering form of the
common snowdrop. The bulbs
verklisteren rapidly and flower as early as one
small bulb size. The photo is of a clump
that after a few years originated from only
a sphere. Because of this habit creates
no large bulbs, but you will of course
the greatest. Height: 15-20 cm.
Belongs to: 8 Galanthus Imperial Group. The still find onbenaamde immediately caught my attention. The inner green, white-edged petals grow an extra white petal. Curious and fun together. Healthy growth, strong gray-green leaves with pollen. Height: 25 cm. Flowering time: February to March.
I'm actually much in favour of cultivating snowdrops that are 'just good doers'; Joe Sharman has his "nothing special" in that category, for example. But as a marketing strategy it seems a bit risky. I wonder how extensively "Charlotte" has been tested?
I've said this before but I will say it again... how many of the named 'drops have been 'tested' in the sense of having a good number of years of growing in ordinary garden conditions to prove their worth, constitution and stability? Precious few. :-X
I hope this mania doesn't spoil a delightful hobby.
'The love of money is the root of all sorts injurious things'
... how many of the named 'drops have been 'tested' in the sense of having a good number of years of growing in ordinary garden conditions to prove their worth, constitution and stability? Precious few. :-X
'The love of money is the root of all sorts injurious things'
johnw - now with feet bared we are off to press some E A Bowles for a trial batch of bubbly.
Quotejohnw - now with feet bared we are off to press some E A Bowles for a trial batch of bubbly.
Tee hee, add some Green Tear for added fizz 8)
Lesley do you know what the rhododendron garden on the Hawera side of Mount Egmont is called. David can't remember ???Holy Moly! David was able to find slides from 1976 so fast? IIf we could locate that sort of thing inside six months we'd be celebrating..... mind you, the storage system here is a little..... how shall we put this?..... "informal"... yes, that'll do, informal!! ;D ;D
...and to put it straight he has now found his slides and it was Pukeiti, he last visited it in Oct 1976.
Lesley do you know what the rhododendron garden on the Hawera side of Mount Egmont is called. David can't remember ???Holy Moly! David was able to find slides from 1976 so fast? IIf we could locate that sort of thing inside six months we'd be celebrating..... mind you, the storage system here is a little..... how shall we put this?..... "informal"... yes, that'll do, informal!! ;D ;D
...and to put it straight he has now found his slides and it was Pukeiti, he last visited it in Oct 1976.
David's system is 'informal' too, but they were brought out some years ago to look at and we haven't got round to it. They were to hand, as it were Cheesy
...and to put it straight he has now found his slides and it was Pukeiti, he last visited it in Oct 1976.