Crocus October-2012

[Rimmer de Vries]

Could the paler Crocus goulimyi on the left in the first photo be Crocus goulimyi leucanthus? or is Crocus goulimyi leucanthus even paler like the flower in the second photo?

Thank you

[Maggi Young]

Lovely crocus, All!r

Good to see these from you, Rimmer.... I moved  some of your pictures apart so we can see them better- the croconuts will likely be offering their opinions soon!
 Best wishes,
 Maggi

[tonyg]

Could the paler Crocus goulimyi on the left in the first photo be Crocus goulimyi leucanthus? or is Crocus goulimyi leucanthus even paler like the flower in the second photo?

Thank you

Crocus goulimyi leucanthus is very pale or white.  I find that in cultivation it crosses with the blue forms and does not breed true.  I suspect this happens in nature too, either way it gives a whole range of intermediates.

[Rimmer de Vries]

This crocus came as seed labelled Crocus oreocreticus, is this identified correctly?

Thank you

Rimmer

[Rimmer de Vries]

This crocus came as seed identified as Crocus thomasii planted in early 2008, is this identified correctly?

Thank you

[Rimmer de Vries]

This came in 2009 as seed from the same donor also as Crocus thomasii,  is this correct?

Thanks  Rimmer

[Gerry Webster]

This crocus came as seed identified as Crocus thomasii planted in early 2008, is this identified correctly?

Thank you

Yellow style branches & white anthers suggest not.

This came in 2009 as seed from the same donor also as Crocus thomasii,  is this correct?

Thanks  Rimmer

Style branch colour is correct but anther colour is not.

I suspect both may be hybrids.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

A couple of mine. I have had lots in bud but no sun or warmth to open them and they just elongate and fall over

Crocus cancellatus ssp pamphylicus
Crocus pulchellus
Crocus nerimaniae

Superb C. nerimaniae, Tony !! 

[tonyg]

Yellow style branches & white anthers suggest not.
Style branch colour is correct but anther colour is not.

I suspect both may be hybrids.

I think much the same.  The white anthers look depauperate, no evidence of pollen, so the colour may be misleading.  I have some very different things labelled as thomasii and suspect hybrids of cultivation here too, perhaps with C hadriaticus or C cartwrightianus

BTW the Crocus oreocreticus looks fine and all of them look healthy and beautiful!

[udo]

some new flowers today:
Cr.biflorus ssp.melantherus
    cartwrightianus, seedling from 'Albus' hort.
    oreocreticus, pale form
    tournefortii
and medius 'Millesimo'

[Rimmer de Vries]

I have some very different things labelled as thomasii and suspect hybrids of cultivation here too, perhaps with C hadriaticus or C cartwrightianus

BTW the Crocus oreocreticus looks fine and all of them look healthy and beautiful!

Tony, could the culprit pollinator be  C. orecocreticus?  i have several Crocus seed lots from the same NARGS donor, listed as C. thomasii and C. oreocreticus from different years and they all seem to look similar to my newbie eyes.  You blessed the one with the most narrow tepals as C. orcocreticus  but here are several others blooming now- they all close up at night.

Rimmer

[Rimmer de Vries]

are these wiggly leaves of C. laevigatus  a virus sympton?

Thanks Rimmer

[Rimmer de Vries]

Crocus lavigatus ex White Mtns, Crete
 NARGS 2008 seed 2nd year  blooming- seems earlier than last year.

Rimmer

[tonyg]

Tony, could the culprit pollinator be  C. orecocreticus?  i have several Crocus seed lots from the same NARGS donor, listed as C. thomasii and C. oreocreticus from different years and they all seem to look similar to my newbie eyes.  You blessed the one with the most narrow tepals as C. orcocreticus  but here are several others blooming now- they all close up at night.

Rimmer

Yes, I'd include Crocus oreocreticus as a possible cross .... or perhaps they are all oreocreticus variants?

[Rimmer de Vries]

last of the blooms of Crocus speciousus ssp. xantholaimos  from seed started fall 2008 

is this one correct? it  has yellow center,  or a hybrid again?

Rimmer