Autumn flowering Narcissus 2012

[Rafa]

in addition, all these characters are constant in the whole localities and also in culture. Also N. obsoletus is a biggger plant and robust than N. serotinus.

[Tony Willis]

Rafa

thank you for the information and pictures which is very interesting to read and see

I know you and many others are convinced they are different species and I respect that opinion but I can see from the pages of discussion on various forums that others disagree not only with these particular plants but many others as well.

That is how I think this subject will always be and I just enjoy seeing the plants and growing them. I will leave my labels as they are as no doubt within a few years another opinion will hold sway and the names will all change again.

[Rafa]

of course Tony, I just wanted to expose my reasons to explain why I consider totally different species, I can't uderstand why they have been considered the same for so long.

[orpheos]

hi Rafa
sadly I've no one good lateral photos and now the blooms are gone:(  i've also looked at pics of last years but i've only found a close up of the corona... also last year it has 2 flowers... by the way the plants come from Paul Christian...

Matteo, do you have a lateral view of this plants? Narcissus serotinus, rarely has two flowers.

[orpheos]

Narcissus viridiflorus... mine has a very bad smell:(

[Rafa]

Thank you Matteo, I think your plants are not N. serotinus, I think it is N. obsoletus x N. tazetta, the same plant that Oron and Gerd showed.
Sorry about you N. viridiflorus, it is my favourite scent, maybe I have a bad sense of smell 

Today I received a bad news concerning Moroccan Narcissus antiatlanticus, that has been plunded one year after its publication... this is the problem of sharing precise localities in scientific articles. Well done to the responsable of this, I hope you gain a lot of money with the bulbs

[orpheos]

thank you Rafa;)
concerning viridiflorus i think mine is a stinking clone;)

it's very sad (and bad) news 

[arillady]

Really shocking news Rafa about the Moroccan Narcissus antiatlanticus. Some people are just greedy and self centered.

[annew]

It will be interesting to see if they turn up in someones nursery list.

[annew]

Not mine, I hasten to add.

[Rafa]

I am completely sure Anne,

Fortunately there are several localities of the same species that are not published. If the collector is reading me, thanks to hime we can't continue our study in this particular place because the only thing left of this specie are the holes that he did to extract the bulbs, an important amount of plants, by the way.

[Gerry Webster]

It will be interesting to see if they turn up in someones nursery list.

I suspect they will not turn up in a nursery list. I wonder whether they were collected (i.e., stolen) to order?

[Rafa]

Maybe..... it seems they were very selective choosing only this species mixed with other bulbouse plants like Pancratium sp, etc.. and they know very well this  narcissus genus as they collected it before bloom, only by seeing the leaves.

I will try to introduce this species properly by seeds.

[Angelo Porcelli]

Incredible, I can't understand the reason of this poaching, seeing this species is closely related to N. broussonetii would not be a garden species for northern climates

[Anthony Darby]

Do we have a picture of this plant?