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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #150 on: April 28, 2010, 09:38:35 PM »
:D Sneaky is good in puzzles  ;D

Otherwise it's not mich of a puzzle  8)

Very true!!  ;D ;D :) :-*
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #151 on: April 28, 2010, 09:57:26 PM »
Fred, you were too subtle for us. Some of us need a sledgehammer to get the point. ;D
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #152 on: May 01, 2010, 03:13:03 PM »
I found last year this Arisaema in between Arisaema kiushianum
beautiful leaves but no flower this year it flowers but sure not a
Arisaema kiushianum
Who knows this species It was in between wild collected bulbs
so they grow together with Arisaema kiushianum

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The correct name must be Arisaema thunbergii ssp. thunbergii says Pascal
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« Last Edit: May 01, 2010, 09:45:04 PM by bulborum »
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #153 on: May 01, 2010, 03:24:34 PM »
Because I did not see them Yet some Pictures from Arisaema kiushianum

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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #154 on: May 01, 2010, 08:38:18 PM »
I found last year this Arisaema in between Arisaema kiushianum
beautiful leaves but no flower this year it flowers but sure not a
Arisaema kiushianum
Who knows this species It was in between wild collected bulbs
so they grow together with Arisaema kiushianum

Roland


Roland, this is the Japanese Arisaema thunbergii ssp. thunbergii. Arisaema thunbergii is split into 3 subspecies: ssp. thunbergii, ssp. urashima and ssp. autumnale. Subspecies autumnale is endemic to Taiwan and is autumn flowering with a striped flower. Subspecies thunbergii and subspecies urashima both occur in Japan with the main difference being the structure of the appendix. In your picture you can see the white zone of the appendix in the spathe throat that has a rather rough, spongy structure typical for subspecies thunbergii. In subspecies urashima this surface is smooth plus subspecies urashima usually does not show this type of variegation, if any at all.

Arisaema kiushianum has a very characteristic T-shaped white zone in the back of the spathe as can be seen on your first picture of this species.
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #155 on: May 01, 2010, 09:43:17 PM »
Thanks a lot Pascal
I change the name in my computer
I grow Arisaema thunbergii ssp. urashima My self
but it has not the beautiful leave pattern as this one
is this normal in Arisaema thunbergii ssp. thunbergii ??

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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #156 on: May 01, 2010, 10:01:33 PM »
Nope, the "normal form" has plain green leaves, a minority have these silver lined leaves. Generally ssp. thunbergii has narrower, more leathery and shiny leaves than ssp. urashima. Urashima on the other hand has more variation in the flower, particularly in the flower colour from green through to straw colored to orange forms that are highly priced in Japan. The flower is also more "open" in urashima with a broader spathe blade but fortunately all subspecies are prolific offsetters. Not to mention kiushianum that easily produces 10 bulblets per tuber.....

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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #157 on: May 01, 2010, 10:11:33 PM »
I just have a clone from Arisaema ssp. urashima
and they don't make seeds I think it is self sterile
but multiplied fast with bulblets But a beautiful long tail from about 75 cm
I have to search for other ones maybe there is a Japanese member
who has some seeds

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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #158 on: May 02, 2010, 06:07:55 PM »
A couple of Arisaemas from the garden - A. griffithii var. pradhanii and A. sikokianum

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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #159 on: May 03, 2010, 05:43:51 AM »
Our first Arisaemas

Arisaema sikokianum
Arisaema englerii
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #160 on: May 07, 2010, 11:24:54 PM »
A nice clump of Arum sp. with some yellow field poppy in amongst it! ::)
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #161 on: May 13, 2010, 12:31:56 PM »
Two first arisaemas flowering now for the 1st time with me
1,2.Arisaema nepenthoides
3.Arisaema ringens
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #162 on: May 15, 2010, 05:42:02 PM »
a very nice small Arum balansanum from Turkey. It is about 15cms tall
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #163 on: May 16, 2010, 11:44:30 PM »
Arum dioscoridis cyprium (hope so)
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Re: Aroids (the family Araceae)
« Reply #164 on: May 21, 2010, 03:56:48 AM »
I received this Arisaema sp. from Darrell Probst; I believe he collected it in China.  Can anyone suggest what species it might be?  The foliage is stunning when fully expanded.
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