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Author Topic: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012  (Read 24469 times)

ronm

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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #105 on: June 20, 2012, 10:13:01 PM »
Its a feature unique within the series Sibericae I believe, and unusually one that is easy to check.
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2012, 09:15:07 AM »
Grown from seed sown September 2009 and flowering for the first time- Iris clarkei
This looks like some I have, grown from wild seed. Edrom stocked such a plant, at one time with the wrong name but they had retained the collection number. I doubt that it is pure clarkii though - have  you snapped a stem yet? intermediates between species are said to occur - by some.
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2012, 09:18:11 AM »
First time flowering raised from seed,it came from a bag of mixed iris seed,so no name sorry.

I think that this is Iris ruthenica, there are several forms ( possiably varieties or species such as I ruthenica nana, Iris uniflora..)
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2012, 09:26:53 AM »
I think that this is Iris ruthenica, there are several forms ( possiably varieties or species such as I ruthenica nana, Iris uniflora..)
Peter i have said it before and i will say it again,Thank you.This one stands about 10 inches high.
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2012, 09:29:14 AM »
Peter i have said it before and i will say it again,Thank you.This one stands about 10 inches high.Did the innominata i sent you flower?
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2012, 10:40:33 AM »
About 15 flowers Davey, and growing well. It is much bigger than my other one which i showed last year. sorry but I have been unable to keep up with pictures this year.
The seeds on I ruthenica are quite distinctive if you get any. Supposed to be sticky and from memory, though I don't get many, round, black and hard, the size of a small pea. Very similar, in fact, to the seeds of Iris anguifuga....related???
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2012, 11:54:12 AM »
I think it's I. ruthenica too, in a particularly attractive form. The colouring and the markings are very good. I only had seed on my 'nana' form once and I remember them as being in ribbed pods, but memory may be at fault. It was at least 10 years ago.
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #112 on: June 22, 2012, 12:45:58 PM »
Easy to solve, I believe. If the flower stem is solid then is I. clarkei, if hollow then not.

It's hollow.  ???
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #113 on: June 22, 2012, 06:35:47 PM »
 :( :( Well that's one species crossed off the list. Only  ??? ::) to go.
Still a very nice plant though, ;) Have we ruled out I bulleyana ?
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #114 on: June 22, 2012, 08:47:08 PM »
I'm not sure at all Ron. Lesley seems to think my plant is a Sib. hybrid. PeterT seems to favour an intermediate between species; and as far as bulleyana is concerned Brian Mathew says "This is a plant of somewhat dubious origin and it seems it is a hybrid of I. forrestii and I chrysographes................."

Maybe I should name it (isn't that what Nurserymen do! ;D ) would Iris 'Ihaventaclue' suit?
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #115 on: June 22, 2012, 08:55:50 PM »
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would Iris 'Ihaventaclue' suit?
I have a whole collection of that species David, ;D ;D

I think the comment from Mathew is maybe true for the time it was written. I think things have moved on for I. bulleyana since then, but  others will know better than I. When the rain stops any chance of a few more pics??
Does this affect my dibs on any pieces? ;D
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #116 on: June 22, 2012, 09:04:08 PM »
<<Does this affect my dibs on any pieces? >>

No, not at all Ron I have a spare with your name on it and the flower was similar to the one I posted. I'd be interested in any further thoughts Peter has.

Will it ever stop raining- the weather does this everytime I put shade paint on my greenhouse, I just knew late May and June would be drastic.
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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #117 on: June 22, 2012, 09:10:58 PM »
Cheers David. 8)

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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #118 on: December 24, 2012, 01:09:20 PM »
A pretty poor picture but it was chucking it down and I didn't want to mess around too much-Iris lazica. The first flower since I split my clump up about 18 months ago and I don't remember it flowering this early before.

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Re: Irises-Non-Bearded 2012
« Reply #119 on: December 24, 2012, 10:45:20 PM »
A pretty poor picture but it was chucking it down and I didn't want to mess around too much-Iris lazica. The first flower since I split my clump up about 18 months ago and I don't remember it flowering this early before.
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