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Unknown fern
« on: January 21, 2012, 04:44:18 PM »
Does anyone know the name of this fern? :-)
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 04:46:40 PM »
some more pictures...
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 06:19:30 PM »
dryopteris cycadina maybe...maybe not. :-\

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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 07:33:27 PM »
Well Bjarne, seems to be right, doesn't it? Looks very exclusive too. I look forward to see mine in a year or two. (Thank you Bjarne  ;) )
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 08:29:53 PM »
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 07:48:25 AM »
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 12:08:48 PM »
Thank you very much for help to find the name of fern :-)
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 12:12:47 PM »
When the new fronds unfurl, it is fantastic - like an animal covered in black hair.
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 12:20:54 PM »
I think I have this.... will need to pay attention when the new fronds come.

Fern IDs make me feel really inadequate. we have quite a few nice ones...some gifted by a late friend and some  grown from  spores.
We had no confidence that the spores would take so we were lazy about the labelling... result is we have no idea what most of them are. So embarrassing. :-[ :-X
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 02:14:20 PM »
I think I have this.... will need to pay attention when the new fronds come.

Fern IDs make me feel really inadequate. we have quite a few nice ones...some gifted by a late friend and some  grown from  spores.
We had no confidence that the spores would take so we were lazy about the labelling... result is we have no idea what most of them are. So embarrassing. :-[ :-X

Not at all! Almost all my ferns(and other plants) are without identity! That is I am too lazy to have a backup and when the labels disappear, often sooner than later, they become anonymous! - if I don't recall the name which in most cases I do not ;D  I am quite happy with it that way (most of the time).
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 08:02:18 PM »
When the new fronds unfurl, it is fantastic - like an animal covered in black hair.

I agree Anne. Something really prehistoric!

Two photos of Dryopteris wallichiana unfurling.

Can anyone hazard a guess on the third photo please. Or rather than guessing provide me with an id ???

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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 09:18:22 PM »
When the new fronds unfurl, it is fantastic - like an animal covered in black hair.

I agree Anne. Something really prehistoric!

Two photos of Dryopteris wallichiana unfurling.

Can anyone hazard a guess on the third photo please. Or rather than guessing provide me with an id ???


Yes, a dramatic sight! Not very plantlike!

Can your fern be a Blechnum? Blechnum nipponicum maybe?
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 09:54:49 PM »
Your third fern, Graham... perhaps Blechnum spicant?
http://hardyfernlibrary.com/ferns/listSpecies.cfm?Auto=102

Aren't the fronds of B. nipponicum more "bowed out" in the middle? (while the B. spicant fronds are more elegantly elongated?)
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 08:44:19 AM »
Blechnum spicant, I reckon.
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Re: Unknown fern
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 01:06:22 PM »
Thanks, Hoy, Maggi and Anne.

After Hoy had indicated B. nipponicum I thought I would have a look for it in the RHS plantfinder to see how common it might be. It indicated only one nursery as a supplier, so I began to think it would be unlikely to be that species. However, the next step took me to Scotland and the next step took me to Binny’s nursery, which is a few miles up the road from where I live. It was given to me by someone I know purchases from Binny’s. They no longer have it in their catalogue but they do have B. spicant.
So, it's possible it could have been nipponicum.
Graham
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