Iris and some Irids 2011

[PeterT]

Beautifull Arthur, were the colour forms mixed?
I don't know why it is not more commonly grown  because I find it no more difficult than other small pogons.

[art600]

Peter

There were large clumps of both colours at a roadside watering hole where some families were having a picnic.

[daveyp1970]

Arthur the purple form is lovely,Peter can i ask if this plant is Iris schachtii it was bought as Iris lutescens

[PeterT]

looks like I shachtii to me Davey, if it is the stems should be branched with a lot of flowers, lutescens is supposed to only have one or two flowers with much looser bracts.

[daveyp1970]

4 flowers,i am fuming i don't know who did the order for PC last year but my order was all muddled up.

[PeterT]

A couple of years ago I saw Iris graeberriana on the show bench labled Iris wilmottiana, guess the source 
I recieved Iris Pixie, - it was a species that I had orderd, same for a friend also in the Derby rock garden club. I recieved "Iris albomarginata (true species) from him too, guess what - more Iris x Graeberiana 'Dark Form'. From what I recall that mistake even reached the pictures on the SIGNA website, but it may have been another species.
Don't believe either that various junos dont have fleshy roots, it's just that the roots fall off in handling - unless they are deliberately removed for propagation.
You didn't do so bad though David, Iris schachtii is as good as I lutescens and I can send you seedlings of lutescens.

[daveyp1970]

Thank you Peter that would be fantastic,i had to throw my last  I lutescens it was virused,thats why i bought that from him.

[PeterT]

Nuff said!

[Ezeiza]

Peter and Davey:

                        Which source would you recommend for true wild species of rhizomatous Irises seed.

[PeterT]

SIGNA seed exchange would be a good start Alberto.
Also other seed exchanges where a donor has donated wild seed perhaps collected on holiday or during botanical field trips. This would include the Scottish Rock Garden, Alpine garden Society and Brittish Iris Society seed exchanges.
Otherwise hand pollinated seed from people such as Harold Mathes,  in seed exchanges. one gets to know trust worthy names of donors. I hope to produce hand pollinated seed in the future and am collecting multiple clones of species, but currently my seed must be regarded as open pollinated unless otherwise stated. For this reason I bin a lot of it. You might also be able to import pairs of clones from Janis Rucksans, Leonid Bondarenko, and you could write to Norman Stevens,  Raanveig Wallis,  Hans Achilles, or Raffa. There are seed vendors such as Kurt Vickery, Joseph Halda , Mojmir Pavelka (euro seeds).

[Ezeiza]

Many thanks, Peter. Kurt's seeds are exceptionally good. I will certainly try some of the others you mention.Thanks to this invaluable forum I know who sell virused plants, and which ones make a business out of plundering wild plants (without any necessity). My deduction from images and data. Phoenician merchants, do not blame the forum owners, they are not guilty of these statements of mine.

[arillady]

I picked a few unguicularis flowers today - two clumps have a lovely mid blue flower and the other usual one I have is a light blue. The yellow and purple iris is one of my crosses: PT0786 Iris pseudopumila (Sicily x Gargano)(ex Harald Mathes seed) x a hermona hybrid. This is the second year and the flowers seem larger than last year and the flowers are definitely larger than the pseudopumila

[Ezeiza]

Pat, "Sicily, ex Gargano" means that Iris has a known provenance. Not a garden plant.

[arillady]

Uhm I can see I should look up where seeds come from more. I had thought Harald meant a form from Sicily crossed with a form from Gargano so you are saying that Sicily is in Gargano so his x meant ex. Thanks Ezeiza for pointing me in the right direction.

[David Nicholson]

Sicily and The Gargano peninsula are two distinct areas

http://www.italytravelsguide.com/gargano-peninsula.php

http://www.bestofsicily.com/