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Joakim B

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #225 on: May 22, 2009, 06:55:24 PM »
Thanks I have it in full sun in Portugal both in pot and planted out. I have it in Sweden in two places one in sun and one on the north side of the house so maybe it will bloom sometime. I presume that it is better to propagate it from seeds than cut pars of the rhizome then. Thanks for the warning.
The neighbour has hers in much more shade so maybe I will put some seeds in a shady place.
Thanks for the advice
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #226 on: May 22, 2009, 09:50:04 PM »
I've had this spuria Iris for some years and rather like its pure white with clear yellow spot.  Unfortunately, I have no idea what cultivar it is.  Anyone recognize it?  About160cm tall!
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #227 on: May 22, 2009, 11:18:06 PM »
Jamie,

Could be the good old Iris ochroleuca by the look of it?  Others here will know for sure whether it is that or a more modern cultivar.  8)
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #228 on: May 23, 2009, 07:55:50 AM »
Jamie

It looks like Iris orientalis or at least has its blood in it.

Iris orientalis is a very tall species and has this large yellow eye on the fall.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #229 on: May 23, 2009, 08:09:40 AM »
Oron,

That is synonymous with ochroleuca isn't it?  I have no idea which nowadays has prominence?   ???
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #230 on: May 23, 2009, 08:13:21 AM »
Paul, you got a head of me, i was just writing to you saying that ochroleuca is a synonymous of I. orientalis.

So we where both right...
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #231 on: May 23, 2009, 08:32:54 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #232 on: May 23, 2009, 07:10:24 PM »
Thanks, guys,

I had thought it may be the species, but it is a fine plant, which one doesn't expect from species.  I am growing a few other species this year from seed, so it will get some company.  It is lightly fragrant, by the way.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #233 on: May 23, 2009, 10:02:49 PM »
Hi,
beautiful Iris species.

My ordinary Iris sibirica is now in flower. After I've replaced my heavy loam soil by a sand/compost mix it is nicely and quickly clumping up.

I've also an almost white one (very pale one) in flower. The flower size and height is smaller than the blue I. sibirica.
Does it have a cultivar name?
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #234 on: May 23, 2009, 10:52:21 PM »
I'm thinking Jamie's orientalis may be a more modern cultivar because orientalis tends to be a bit cramped and twisted in the flower and always seems to have two flowers out at once from the same spathe. The newer cultivars have cleaner lines so that the individual flowers are better displayed. There are some excellent yellow/white combos as well as all the other colours.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #235 on: May 23, 2009, 10:55:30 PM »
Joakim, I hope your I. foetidissima flowers for you too but if seed is set, do be very careful to keep your little one away from it. The seeds are truly beautiful, big, bright red and to a little child have the very tempting look of something sweet and edible but they are quite severly poisonous. When my grand children were young I removed all the pods well before they opened. Now they are older, I can't get them anywhere near the garden.  :)
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #236 on: May 24, 2009, 12:18:32 AM »
If anyone is seriously interested in spuria irises I suggest you contact Robert Pries who compiled The Illustrated Checklist of Spuria Irises for The Spuria Iris Society a section of The American Iris Society 2005 - limited first edition

The book is A4size and weighs 900grams. 284 pages and is full of colour photos. Covers the species as well as hybrids and many other subjects that are invaluable.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #237 on: May 24, 2009, 11:15:09 AM »
Pat,
thanks for the book tip!  I simply adore books and my shelves are bowing under the weight of blossoms and animals and art and...you get the drift.

Lesley,
interesting point, as, if this is not a hybrid, it is a very fine form of the species.  As i recall, it was a gift from an Iris firm.
Jamie Vande
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #238 on: May 24, 2009, 11:55:45 AM »
I agree with Lesley, I also would think the shown spuria is a spuriahybrid, but I am not a specialist in this section.
Here a plant I grow as Iris orientalis  (next to Phoenix roebelenii ;)) - height about 1m.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #239 on: May 24, 2009, 03:30:23 PM »
Lesley thanks for the concern about the kids regarding the seedpods of the iris. Unfortunally the seedpods are on the neighbours plant in the common garden but I will try to make sure the kids do not get to them.

Jaime Tamberg have one like Yours with a cultivar name. Mine came from Hungary (but I do not know from where originally) and is later than most of the bearded ones. It is around 140cm. I have posted picture from last years. They sometimes get a bit crocked but I think they flower well. They are extremely strong growers and physically push the bearded Iris rhizoma out of the bed.

Armin I would expect that I sibirica would like a more moister retaining soil like loam. It is the bearded that are liking the more well drain soil of sand.
There is some cultivars on the Tamberg website and quite a few that are more on the cream side of white. At least one is a bit later than the rest and by that prolonging the season. It is also a bit smaller. I do not remember any name so not very helpful.

Kind regards
Joakim
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