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Paul T

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #210 on: May 19, 2009, 01:29:55 PM »
I remember discussing the 'Eye Shadow' irises a year or two ago.  I was stunned by them then as I am now.  I would love to grow them myself as well, but would imagine that we may have similar problems with importing them here too.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #211 on: May 20, 2009, 05:38:19 AM »
Dr Tamberg is trying to double the chromosomes of Mr Shimizu's
eyeshadow iris so they will be fertile.

http://www.tamberg.homepage.t-online.de/homep3e.htm

I wonder if he has been successful yet.

Hiroshi Shimizu's article describing how he developed the iris
is in English at
                    http://www.japan-iris.org/English/eye_shadow.html

« Last Edit: May 20, 2009, 05:47:11 AM by Diane Whitehead »
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #212 on: May 20, 2009, 08:48:56 AM »
Thanks for the link, Diane,

I will hopefully be seeing Tomas Tamberg this July and will ask how things have come along.  He took a year or two off from his work with hybridizing, but is back into the game again.

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #213 on: May 20, 2009, 09:50:59 AM »
Iris foetidissima is in bloom at the moment, this is one of my favorites since it needs no irrigation and can grow in heavy shade, under trees, in dry areas.
The flowers are nice but the seeds pods are amazing in Autumn.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #214 on: May 20, 2009, 12:32:50 PM »
Wim your yellow Iris 2 with brown blotch looks like Pogo (Page 58 Re: Iris page
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #215 on: May 20, 2009, 01:11:12 PM »
Oron,

Is that purple one really an Iris foetidissima?  I've never heard of any other than in shades of yellow, plus it looks to have much more substantial leaves and a different flower shape?  I would have thought that the second pic that you have labelled as citrina is actually the straight species, because I think that the citrina version is a more solid yellow than the yellow and brown species.  Whatever your purple one is I think it is rather nice, but I figured you would want to have it labelled correctly. 8)
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #216 on: May 20, 2009, 02:12:35 PM »
Paul,

The purplish Iris foetidissima I have posted is the common form that grows wild in a few European countries .
Mine are from seeds I have collected from the wild in Italy, and they all look the same with very little variation.

Varieta Citrina is  or as it called 'Citrina' has been growing in cultivation for many years but I couldn't trace its origins.
I have found a few sources of it mentioning it arrived from Cedric Morris in the UK but I'm not sure if it appeared in cultivation or found in the wild...
Hopfully someone from the forum can give us some more information.

Attached the typical seed  pods of the first plant i have posted.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #217 on: May 20, 2009, 10:53:49 PM »
Thanks for the eye shadow link Diane. I vaguely remember that you gave it before, when they were mentioned. I need to get better organised. So perhaps Jamie and Fermi, you don't need the photocopies? The link has exactly the same material. Most of the remaining part of the journal is in Japanese characters so not of much practical use, but drop me a note if you still want the photocopies.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #218 on: May 20, 2009, 10:57:17 PM »
Paul, I. foetidissima varies quite a lot with yellows, purples and blue shades. I love it for the fruit too but for that reason - they are very poisonous) it is the other (with pseudocorus) which is a prohibited species in NZ. It's already here of course, in dofferent forms and in quantity but we may not import it. I doubt if anyone wants to.

Jamie, if you think about it at the time, mention to Thomas Tamberg that plants from the seed he distributed in NZ in 2000, are doing very well, blooming freely and are very good garden plants. The seeds I was given were from Sibirica Setosa crosses.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2009, 11:00:56 PM by Lesley Cox »
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #219 on: May 21, 2009, 05:28:10 AM »
Up until now I had never even heard of a non-yellow version of foetidissima.  I've only ever seen the yellow one here.  The seedpods are fantastic, and apparently there is a yellow podded form (and I think I heard rumour of a white).  Only ever seen the normal orange podded ones here, with either muddy or yellow flowers.  Must try to track down the purple or blue forms, as they're probably a lot nicer than the dirty yellow I've previously seen.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #220 on: May 21, 2009, 05:28:25 PM »
here are a few of the siberians that have started to bloom.  I used to do a lot more with them, but space has held me back.  I have quite a few white, and the one shown I believe is 'Marshmallow Frosting', but may be 'King Of Kings'.  I can't keep them apart.

'Sultan's Ruby' is a wonderful raspberry colour, very difficult to capture on 'film', as is the colouring of 'Sparkling Rosé'.  'Other World' is a strong growing tetraploid
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #221 on: May 21, 2009, 09:26:26 PM »
'Sparling Rose (rosay) is beautiful. For some reason I've always had a prejudice against the pink/magenta/reddish siberians but am gradually getting over it. I suppose it was just that the rich blues and purples were so magnificent.

Paul, there is also at least one, maybe more, variegated foliage form of I. foetidissima.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #222 on: May 22, 2009, 06:57:54 AM »
Jamie,

That 'Sultan's Ruby' is a good strong colour, isn't it?  Beautiful.  I grow only the one pink siberian, called 'Pink Haze' and it is a soft pale pink one.

Lesley,

Yes, I grow the variegated foetidissima.  It has muddy browny and yellow flowers.
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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #223 on: May 22, 2009, 05:46:52 PM »
Paul the one I have in a flora of a part of Portugal is light purple and with yellow standards (things sticking up) so a sligtly more yellowish form than Oron has.

I have them growing in a pot but think they are too deep since they have not flowered yet.
They must have come into the soil in the grdencenter where i Bougt the plant. I actually bought extra many hibiscus syracusa a 2 € to heve these irises. It took me some 2-3 years to figure out what it was. Our neighbour have some flowering with seed pods later on. ::)
How stinky are they? The name means stinky does it not?

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Re: Iris and some Irids 2009
« Reply #224 on: May 22, 2009, 06:14:41 PM »
Joakim

This species has deep roots, and grows much better when planted out in the garden.
It prefers shade, and grows well even under Pine and Oak trees.
The name comes from the fact that when you crush or cut the rhizome it smells badly.

Not just foetida but foetidissima... ;)
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