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Re: Non alpines: other types of gardening: growing veg.etc for instance
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2011, 09:25:25 AM »
Stephen Your plant could well be Lipstick(too red to be Pink Panda).The rounded fruits look very much like the few I had on my plant.
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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2011, 09:41:39 AM »
Thanks for that, John!
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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2011, 09:48:38 AM »
John,

The ones I am thinking of are fruiting varieties, not ornamental.  Well at least they're sold as fruiting varieties, and some of the pots have fruit forming on them.  I've been tempted to buy some to try them.  I do already have one, but I'd need to go and check it's name.  It has mid pink flowers, but the ones we have at work are much darker flowers.
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2011, 10:24:52 AM »
Fragaria moschata (the Hautbois Strawberry) was an early introduction to gardens here in Norway in the 17th century. Today it's quite commonly found in old gardens but generally only male or female plants survive. This is the case in my own garden. I've been trying to get hold of a mate for it without success for some years and then a couple of years ago I was given a couple of supposedly self-fertile forms, one nameless, the other Capron Framboise. The former flowered and fruited in my garden last summer. The fruits were a good size, but the Fieldfares got there before me, so I still haven't sampled this one (they are supposed to be sweet and aromatic). Anyone else have experience with these?
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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2011, 10:36:49 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with a strawberry called Mara des Bois which reportedly has an amazing and different taste? Love to get my grubby little hands on a bit of that...
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2011, 10:54:15 AM »
Quote from: Stephenb on February 03, 2011, 10:36:49 AM
Does anyone have any experience with a strawberry called Mara des Bois which reportedly has an amazing and different taste? Love to get my grubby little hands on a bit of that...
PM me your address Stephen....

My absolute favourite for flavour is the French cultivar Anablanca which has a wonderful rich aroma - you smell rather than see when it is ripe. (I've got Capron Framboise but most of the musk varieties are difficult to come by)
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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2011, 11:02:03 AM »
Wow, that was quick - will send you a PM!
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Re: Non alpines: other types of gardening: growing veg.etc for instance
« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2011, 02:05:49 PM »
Quote from: Stephenb on February 03, 2011, 10:36:49 AM
Does anyone have any experience with a strawberry called Mara des Bois which reportedly has an amazing and different taste? Love to get my grubby little hands on a bit of that...
Yes, Stephen. 'Mara des bois' is famous here in France, and planted and sold on the markets more widely every year.
It does taste like wild strawberries, and is pretty prolific. One of my absolute favs, with 'Garriguette'!
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« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2011, 02:34:15 PM »
Interesting! Is Garriguette a Fragaria x ananassa cultivar?

This is a tasty long-fruited form of Fragaria vesca I found in the woods here and moved into my garden:
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« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2011, 03:50:06 PM »
No idea, Stephen, sorry!
Both 'Garriguette' (very early, very tasty, but limited production season in spring) and 'Mara des Bois' (very tasty, wild-strawberry taste, very long production, welll into autumn)were obtained by the French INRA (National Institute for Agronomic Research) during the 1970s.
I don't know a lot about their origin. They are often sold as Fragraria vesca 'Garriguette' or 'Mara des Bois', but I don't even know if this name is botanically valid!
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« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2011, 04:30:32 PM »
I have tried 'Mara des Bois' but didn't find the flavour very sweet.  I think it needs a warm spell when ripening to bring out the flavour. 
I grow Fragaria 'Red Ruby' which I think is a sport of or is bred from 'Pink Panda'.  The berries are small and round and taste good but the birds usually spot them before I do.  A pink flowered plant appeared among the red ones. It is taller and the berries are bigger and longer.  They are quite tasty but I don't often find a ripe one.  I'm not sure if this strawberry is a reversion to 'Pink Panda' or is a cross with a culinary strawberry, possibly 'Aromel'.  The red one spreads over a wide area and the pink one is well mixed through it so I don't know if it is all one clone or a similar one has arisen more than once.  I keep meaning to 'capture' a few runners and grow them protected from birds to see if it is worth growing for its fruit.
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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2011, 04:45:06 PM »
Quote from: Roma on February 03, 2011, 04:30:32 PM
I think it needs a warm spell when ripening to bring out the flavour.
I think you might be right on that point!
Unless growing it under a polytunnel, mabe? Was yours in the open garden?
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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2011, 05:24:51 PM »
Zeph,
It was growing in the open garden.  I did get a few fully ripe berries which tasted good but decided it was not a good variety for my conditions.
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Re: Non alpines: other types of gardening: growing veg.etc for instance
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2011, 05:42:21 PM »
Perhaps my almost 24 hour sun in summer will help!
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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2011, 06:41:20 PM »
caution!!!!!!There are a lot of "false" Mara des bois on the market.The true one doesn't make any runners so you have to divide them.
Gariguette is indeed very early and popular in France but far too acid for me.I like a sweet strawberry.
Ciflorette is a new one said to be like a sweet Gariguette.I'll have to try it.
Charlotte(yes like the spuds) is tasty and sweet as is Cirafine both cropping twice or more .
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