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Kees Jan
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Gargano, unidentified species
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November 20, 2010, 05:04:17 PM »
Here are some unidentified plants from the Gargano peninusla, Italy. Any help in identifying them would be great!
Anchusa?
Ophrys
Ophrys
Tragopogon
More pictures from this trip at
http://keesjan.smugmug.com/Botanical-trips/Europe/Italy-Naples-to-Gargano-spring/
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Lori S.
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Re: Gargano, unidentified species
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November 20, 2010, 05:21:42 PM »
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Echium sp
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4. Perhaps
Tragopogon porrifolius ssp. australis
http://botany.cz/cs/tragopogon-porrifolius-australis/
http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/tragopogon.htm
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Lori
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November 20, 2010, 05:23:39 PM »
Good orchid reference here:-
http://www.orchideedelgargano.it/9
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Behind a camera in Whitworth. Lancashire. England.
Kees Jan
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Re: Gargano, unidentified species
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November 20, 2010, 05:45:17 PM »
Many thanks. Yes, the Tragopogon seems to be some sort of porrifolius form. I don't think the blue plant is an Echium though. Here is some sort of Corydalis, no idea which species... (The Anemone is apennina.)
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Kees Jan van Zwienen
Alblasserdam, The Netherlands (joint editor of Folium Alpinum, the journal of the Dutch Rock Garden Club "NRV")
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Re: Gargano, unidentified species
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November 20, 2010, 06:07:34 PM »
Yes, I see.
For the first plant, I got the impression that the cymes are rather one-sided, which doesn't seem to match the Italian
Anchusa
at the site below... ?
Anchusella cretica
seems closer in that regard... What do you think?
http://luirig.altervista.org/photos/a/anchusella_cretica.htm
http://www.google.ca/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=anchusella%20cretica&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1278&bih=617
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Lori
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Kees Jan
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November 20, 2010, 06:17:22 PM »
Yes, I think you're right - It seems to be Anchusella cretica! Thanks. Here is a Viola found in deciduous woodland.
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Re: Gargano, unidentified species
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November 20, 2010, 07:02:15 PM »
Hi Kees,
We were in the Gargano in mid-April this year and saw a wonderful range of plants, especially orchids, and we obviously followed your route across from Naples. The Gargano is incredibly quiet at that time of year and we struggled to find restaurants, hotels, etc., but the most disappointing aspect was the total disregard for the sanctity of this beautiful national park displayed by the hordes of local fly-tippers - numerous back roads, many roadside verges and every remote wood was sullied by fridges, sacks of rubbish and litter of the worst kind. We found cyclamen, anemones and orchids growing up through cans, tyres and broken glass and were so very disappointed.
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Cliff Booker
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Kees Jan
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Re: Gargano, unidentified species
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November 20, 2010, 07:27:35 PM »
It seems to be the same in many places: Greece and Iran immediately come to my mind.
The amazing thing in Italy is perhaps that it is not just the countryside: Naples was a big mess and has a very bad reputation regarding this problem.
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