Cyps in pots 2010

[monocotman]

Good morning,
first up is a comparison photo of the hybrids Iwahime (left) and Sabine (right). Not much difference- Iwahime has more pronounced veining and a whiter pouch in this flowering. Other clones may be almost identical.
Second photo is the 2nd generation hybrid Hideki Okuyama ( Gisela x fasciolatum). A very vigorous clone. Second year of flowering and already eight growths and five flowers. The flowers are growing on me - much nicer than last year. The petals are distinctly green.
Regards,
David

[goofy]

Second photo is the 2nd generation hybrid Hideki Okuyama ( Gisela x fasciolatum). A very vigorous clone. Second year of flowering and already eight growths and five flowers. The flowers are growing on me - much nicer than last year. The petals are distinctly green.

hey, I doubt severely that this is Hideki.
Hideki Okuyama is not a "Gisela hybrid", and looks totaly different
http://www.w-frosch.de/Cypris/Hybriden/hidek.htm

Gisela X fasciolatum is Cyp. Florence,
and your plant "might be" Florence.
but this too is doubtful.

Here is a pic, which I got from P. Corkhill some years ago:
http://www.imaginingdesign.com/orchid/view.php?sID=152

Sometimes its a real problem to get plants true to name.
Even if one buy from a serious seller/breeder,
they seem to mix up the names by errors and plants are wrong labeled.

cheers

[Maggi Young]

Surely the identification of these plants is further confused by the fact that young plants can have flowers remarkably different from the flowers from a mature plant in future years.... so that photos of  flowers from the same plant would look quite different from year to year?!!??

[Maren]

Hi, I saw this Cypripedium Aki in a pot, displayed by Edrom nurseries at the Malvern Show. The plant height was less than a foot and the group was very compact and balanced. Mine tend to be a lot taller. I asked the man about this and he said they were located in Scotland and that probably explained it. One of his friends, who lived in Kent, produced plants like Cyp kentuckiense that reached 1m in height (like mine) and his came to only to 40cm.

Hmmm, I liked his plant but move to Scotland

[Maggi Young]

Hmmm, I liked his plant but move to Scotland

Why not, Maren? You'd be very welcome.... and so would your plants!!

[Anthony Darby]

Surely the identification of these plants is further confused by the fact that young plants can have flowers remarkably different from the flowers from a mature plant in future years.... so that photos of  flowers from the same plant would look quite different from year to year?!!??

Maggi, I have had completely different flowers on the same stem!. A couple of years ago, questions were asked about a potful of X ventricosum I had at a show, as some flowers were different from others and it was thought there might be more than one clone in the pot. The colour is dependent on the temperature at a critical point in the flower's development. I had a clump of calceolus that was very peely wally, growing under an acer. I moved it and the flowers were much darker the next year.

My 'Sabine' is more like 'Iwahime' and is just coming out now.

[monocotman]

Hi there,

Goofy - you may well be right. I had the parentage of Hideki wrong - I got it confused with the Florence that I'd posted earlier.
This plant and the Florence came direct from Peter so I'll check up with him. It is still possible that they are correct if both were made with an alba or pale form of either ventricosum or macranthos.
However neither have the largest flowers so it is unlikely that the 'Hideki' is correct, if the photo from Werner Frosch is correct. They could both be Florence made with a pale Gisela.

Maren -As regards plant heights- I find that a 100% increase in height is quite possible from a seedling flowering for the first time to a mature plant. Newly repotted plants also tend to be shorter stemmed the following year.

Regards,

David

[Slug Killer]

A few of mine today.

Cyp. fasciolatum

[Slug Killer]

A few more.

Cyp flavum
x ventricosum  tall
xventricosum  dark

[Maggi Young]

Dave, I have put the plant names in the text of your posts..... without that the search engine cannot find them.

[Slug Killer]

Thanks, forgot to put them on

[Anthony Darby]

I'm waiting for the Cyp. ventricosum 'Handsome'.

[Maggi Young]

I'm waiting for the Cyp. ventricosum 'Handsome'.

I suspect that variety has been superceded by 'tubby'

[Slug Killer]

I'm waiting for the Cyp. ventricosum 'Handsome'.

Ha Ha.

It was done so I would know which to upload.

David

[Maren]

Just been round my garden on my daily round and saw a few cyps half eaten. 
Clearly the molluscs are at it again. Quick, must get the slug pellets, you too! and if you used them up don't forget to buy some more.