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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #135 on: June 08, 2010, 08:35:16 PM »
Try this one for size  8)

Dactylorhiza okellyi (Druce) Avertanov
Etymology: named after O'KELLY, Irish doctor who collected it.Type: Hb, Clare (1909).
Synonyms: Orchis maculata var. okellyi DRUCE, Orchis okellyi (DRUCE) DRUCE, Orchis maculata subsp. okellyi (DRUCE) DRUCE, Dactylorhiza fuchsii subsp. okellyi (DRUCE) SOÓ, Dactylorhiza maculata subsp. okellyi (DRUCE) BAUMAN & KÜNKELE.
Description: like Dactylorhiza fuchsii but often slender,(15-)20-40cm tall, cauline leaves , 5-8 quite narrow, erect to spreading, arching downwards, often keeled, not spotted, up to 8cm long, 2cm wide, the upper 2-4 leaves bract-like; bracts shorter than flowers; inflorescence short and compact, subcylindrical to subovoid, 3-5cm high; flowers small, scented, usually pure white, not spotted; labellum medium-sized, 5.5mm long, 8mm wide, spreading, clearly trilobed; 2n=40.
Variations: very distinct and only slightly variable taxon; transitions towards Dactylorhiza fuchsii exist, however they are sometimes considered to belonging to the species; in the broad sense Dactylorhiza okelleyi can thus exhibit individuals with faintly spotted leaves, always near the tip, and with flowers faintly pink-tinged and imperceptably spotted. Flowering V-VII
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #136 on: June 08, 2010, 08:58:35 PM »
No photo from me of my ?okellyi until Thursday when the very welcome rain stops. By then many flowers will be open
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #137 on: June 08, 2010, 10:32:49 PM »
The books say many things that don't always hold true in the field or in cultivation!
Beware of defining a species from the description of one 'expert', there will always be
a plant of that species willing to 'cock-a-snoot' ;)
I love the 'not very variable' statements that appear in such books, so profound, right
upto the point where you look at a new population that is rather variable!! I wonder
just how many populations in how many countries have been researched in order for
an author to be 'authorative'? ;) ;)
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #138 on: June 09, 2010, 06:17:08 AM »
A self-seeding Dactylorhiza incarnata
in Moscow

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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #139 on: June 09, 2010, 06:34:26 AM »
Very nice Oleg, is the lip a typical form with you? Here the lobes tend to be less folded.
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #140 on: June 09, 2010, 10:03:37 AM »
last year Listera ovata appeared in the garden and this year there are now five plants flowering in different areas so it appears to be spreading.
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #141 on: June 09, 2010, 11:42:06 AM »
On the subject of Dactylorhiza fuchsii v. okellyi, I contacted Professor Richard Bateman for clarification. He is a Hardy Orchid Society colleague and taxonomic specialist in these plants and this is a paraphrase of his reply:

"The argument for varietal status was based on morphometric analyses that showed extensive overlap with non-okellyi populations of fuchsii, though subsequent DNA-based analyses (Pillon et al. 2007) did not reveal any differences from standard fuchsii. Some authors still prefer subspecific status for okellyi, but very few would argue for species-level recognition. Okellyi is a misunderstood name; many folk apply it only to albinos, when in fact it refers to populations containing an unusually large proportion of anthocyanin-deficient individuals."

So there you have it, it's just a plain fuchsii without red, blue or violet. ;D ;D ;D

The many specimens I saw on the Burren and around Mullaghmore were indeed pure white with the faintest hint of lime green. They stood out like candles in the surrounding vegetation.
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #142 on: June 09, 2010, 02:30:04 PM »
That's sorted that out then Maren  ;D
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #143 on: June 09, 2010, 03:46:37 PM »
 and here are some photos of okellyi (not) but hopefully possibly ::)
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #144 on: June 09, 2010, 03:51:56 PM »
I'm going to lift all my orchids that look the same and keep them together as a group
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #145 on: June 09, 2010, 03:54:02 PM »
and here are some photos of okellyi (not) but hopefully possibly ::)

I'm afraid it's a negative Mark.
You don't have okellyi
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #146 on: June 09, 2010, 04:01:43 PM »
Oh well.
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #147 on: June 09, 2010, 06:45:53 PM »
Same with mine from Sam Edwards, will get a photo of it when is opened, but it looks a deep pink colour will appear. >:(
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« Reply #148 on: June 09, 2010, 07:18:01 PM »
Neil I didnt know about the UK Orchid forum. Must go for a look and maybe show some plants
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #149 on: June 09, 2010, 07:25:44 PM »
Neil I didnt know about the UK Orchid forum. Must go for a look and maybe show some plants

 Neither did I....I've been reading the German one! ::)
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