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mark smyth

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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #120 on: June 08, 2010, 11:44:13 AM »
here are the photos. The brown bits are crisp. Onlt the outside leaves are affected. The flowering stems are OK
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #121 on: June 08, 2010, 11:54:57 AM »
The first of Sam Edwards/dactman Dactylorhiza fuschii okellyi is open today  >:( >:( >:( It's very pale pink but with dark pink spots. All my books say it can be pale pink but none mention spots on the flowers. The leaves have no spots

Does anyone have photos of okellyi in it's two forms?
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #122 on: June 08, 2010, 12:06:16 PM »
hi, dactylorhiza in flower...

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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #123 on: June 08, 2010, 02:33:26 PM »
The dreaded black death Mark. Fungicide does halt it, but the plants lose their vigour and usually perish.
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #124 on: June 08, 2010, 03:11:22 PM »
Quote from: Britain's Orchids
Dactylorhiza fuchsii
Sub-species: o'kellyi
IDENTIFICATION:
The leaves are slender and unspotted. The flower stem, up to 30cm tall, bears strongly scented white flowers in a square-topped spike. They are white or very faintly marked, while the lobes of the lip are rounded and almost equal.

Looking at this, if it's not white it's not o'kellyi.
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2010, 03:17:37 PM »
Agree, interestingly I lost large clumps of The Cruishank form of Dactylorhiza fuschii and D foliosa.  After a few years at least one Dac has appeared at each location, very healthy and the Cruikshank orchid has started to bulk up and has flowered for several years.  As far as I could tell there were no tubers left at any site.

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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2010, 03:36:59 PM »
Does Cruickshank form = Cruickshanks dark leaf?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2010, 04:00:01 PM by mark smyth »
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2010, 03:49:11 PM »
Quote from: Britain's Orchids
Dactylorhiza fuchsii
Sub-species: o'kellyi
IDENTIFICATION:
The leaves are slender and unspotted. The flower stem, up to 30cm tall, bears strongly scented white flowers in a square-topped spike. They are white or very faintly marked, while the lobes of the lip are rounded and almost equal.

Looking at this, if it's not white it's not o'kellyi.

Svante Malmgren says on his website that 90% are white and 10%pink.

http://www.lidaforsgarden.com/Orchids/dactylorhiza_eng.htm

Mark I would burn them in case they spread to the rest of your plants unless you can quarantine them far away.

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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2010, 03:54:12 PM »
Does Cruickshank form = Cruickshanks dark leaf?
No, they are different..... one has a darker leaf..... there's often a clue........ ;D ;D ;)
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2010, 03:56:02 PM »
:-P If mine is officially called Cruickshank form I need to relabel it
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2010, 04:09:52 PM »
That picture you just showed is of a much darker leaf form than the usual Cruickshank form.
I must admit that I don't think I am familiar with one purporting to be 'Cruickshanks dark leaf' but it may be a variation that has arisen somewhere from the original type. Roma may know more..... :-\
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #131 on: June 08, 2010, 04:13:12 PM »


Mark I would burn them in case they spread to the rest of your plants unless you can quarantine them far away.

David

 You could try digging them up ; taking off any baby tubers that are already formed ;  quarantine them and hope for the best while burning the rest.... ???
Be careful of handling any young tubers with the same "paws" as you touch the diseased ones...... risky business.....
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #132 on: June 08, 2010, 04:30:16 PM »
yes I'll be careful. I'll keep them behind the green house
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #133 on: June 08, 2010, 07:46:56 PM »
Quote from: Britain's Orchids
Dactylorhiza fuchsii
Sub-species: o'kellyi
IDENTIFICATION:
The leaves are slender and unspotted. The flower stem, up to 30cm tall, bears strongly scented white flowers in a square-topped spike. They are white or very faintly marked, while the lobes of the lip are rounded and almost equal.

Looking at this, if it's not white it's not o'kellyi.

Svante Malmgren says on his website that 90% are white and 10%pink.

http://www.lidaforsgarden.com/Orchids/dactylorhiza_eng.htm

Mark I would burn them in case they spread to the rest of your plants unless you can quarantine them far away.

David

What does the official description say?
I can't find it online.
Doesn't seem much point in having a white subspecies that is pink  ::)
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Re: some beauties just flowering
« Reply #134 on: June 08, 2010, 08:01:38 PM »
I suppose it depends whose official description you are using!!

One of my books says'The D. maculata group offers a bewildering variety of types' but both of mine say o'kellyi is white but then so are a lot of others
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