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Anthony Darby

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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #270 on: April 27, 2010, 09:10:33 AM »
Well I certainly didn't get them from Holland! Are the two species sympatric Dimitri?
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #271 on: April 27, 2010, 09:45:30 AM »
Anthony - I think you will only be able to identify your frit with some degree of confidence if it produces seed capsules. According to Martyn Rix, that of F. ruthenica is winged whereas that of F. meleagroides is not.The old Flora of the USSR describes the capsule of the former as "winged, 6-angled" & that of the latter as "oblong-ovoid, obtusely 3-angled."
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #272 on: April 27, 2010, 09:48:50 AM »
Thanks Gerry. That will help as I have pics of the seed capsules at home.
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #273 on: April 27, 2010, 12:40:34 PM »
Yes, Anthony - these two species are sympatric and even share the same area but not ecotope! And Gerry is right, these two species differs by ovary and then fruit with wings (ruthenica) or wingless (meleagroides).
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #274 on: April 27, 2010, 02:42:37 PM »
Yes, Anthony - these two species are sympatric and even share the same area but not ecotope! And Gerry is right, these two species differs by ovary and then fruit with wings (ruthenica) or wingless (meleagroides).

I've checked. The seed pods of plants from which mine came are acutely angled like the points of a star.
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #275 on: April 27, 2010, 04:02:10 PM »
So, Anthony, if fruits of your frit are winged, it must be more probable F. ruthenica as the tendrils (although not well developped  :'() are clearly visible.
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #276 on: April 27, 2010, 05:50:49 PM »
I agree. I wonder if the leaves will show more of the characteristic feature as they age?
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #277 on: April 27, 2010, 07:43:46 PM »
Fritillaria caucasica (1) was the first to flower here together with Fritillaria stenanthera (2) with Fritillaria sewertzovii (3) and Fritillaria pinardii (4) to follow
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #278 on: April 27, 2010, 08:28:02 PM »
I agree. I wonder if the leaves will show more of the characteristic feature as they age?
They come from proven stock that has been in the garden of the grower for over twenty years.
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #279 on: April 28, 2010, 12:17:47 PM »
Oleg, how nice it is to see these beauties coming to life after winter in your garden...all seem to be growing really well 8)
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #280 on: April 28, 2010, 02:48:25 PM »
These are some photos of a Fritillaria meleagris natural habitat. There are two of them in the Schwäbisch Hall county (80k E of Stuttgart in SW Germany) - one with a handful of flowers, and one with a few hundred, including at least four whites.

The latter one is fenced in (un?)fortunately, and few plants are in photo distance.

They grow alongside Caltha palustris in the wettest part of the meadow, next to an abandoned drainage ditch. Other notable flowers nearby are Cardamine pratensis and Colchicum autumnale (in foliage, of course), both known for their humid but not necessarily wet preferences.

Gaildorf, Germany

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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #281 on: April 28, 2010, 03:23:20 PM »
Hi Thomas,

Great pictures and plants!
I will be in SW Germany in two more weeks. Will there be still some flowers left to see?
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #282 on: April 28, 2010, 03:47:25 PM »

I am afraid they are all faded in two weeks' time.

When and where will you be?


Hi Thomas,

Great pictures and plants!
I will be in SW Germany in two more weeks. Will there be still some flowers left to see?
Gaildorf, Germany

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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #283 on: April 28, 2010, 04:17:26 PM »
Thank you, Maggi, for sharing the pleasure to look at them. Next fortnight will be the peak of frit flowering together with american erythroniums.
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Re: Fritillaria 2010
« Reply #284 on: April 28, 2010, 05:34:10 PM »

I am afraid they are all faded in two weeks' time.

When and where will you be?


I sent you a message.
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