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Hans A.

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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #375 on: November 22, 2009, 06:55:29 PM »
Quote from: Miriam on November 21, 2009, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Oron Peri on November 21, 2009, 12:00:38 PM
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #376 on: November 22, 2009, 08:38:05 PM »
For a moment there, I thought Dom was showing a PINK N. viridiflorus.... on reply 1422 on page 95 ;D
« Last Edit: November 22, 2009, 08:56:34 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #377 on: November 23, 2009, 07:24:42 PM »
Brian Duncan had this Narcissus on display at Termonfeckin.

Narcissus x alleniae.
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #378 on: November 23, 2009, 07:47:12 PM »
Quote from: Michael J Campbell on November 23, 2009, 07:24:42 PM
Brian Duncan had this Narcissus on display at Termonfeckin.

Narcissus x alleniae.

Oh I do love this.
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #379 on: November 23, 2009, 07:48:29 PM »
Ooooooooooo ;D
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #380 on: November 23, 2009, 08:04:18 PM »
AAAAAHHHH!  What a great flower, so nicely displayed.  I'm hoplessly hooked, now.
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #381 on: November 23, 2009, 08:53:15 PM »
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Brian Duncan had this Narcissus on display at Termonfeckin.

Narcissus x alleniae.

 Oh, dear goodness, be still my beating heart!  :o
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #382 on: November 23, 2009, 09:03:09 PM »
Wow!  :o
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #383 on: November 23, 2009, 09:46:38 PM »
That is VERY special. 8)
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #384 on: November 23, 2009, 10:05:42 PM »
Wow! :o
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #385 on: November 24, 2009, 10:07:26 AM »
... almost alien....  ;)
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #386 on: November 24, 2009, 08:18:05 PM »
I suppose since this hybrid has been reclassified it can no longer be considered a natural hybrid as the parents aren't sympatric? It was originally described as N. serotinus × N. viridiflorus, but the original female parent was of eastern origin. As there are naturally occurring hybrids of N. serotinus and N. viridiflorus they must now be called something else? Brian's plant is stunning, and I'm sure it will be nurtured and given a well deserved clonal name?
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #387 on: November 25, 2009, 06:07:09 AM »
They combine well, don't they.  Very nice.
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #388 on: November 26, 2009, 05:56:01 PM »
Quote from: Anthony Darby on November 24, 2009, 08:18:05 PM
I suppose since this hybrid has been reclassified it can no longer be considered a natural hybrid as the parents aren't sympatric? It was originally described as N. serotinus × N. viridiflorus, but the original female parent was of eastern origin. As there are naturally occurring hybrids of N. serotinus and N. viridiflorus they must now be called something else? Brian's plant is stunning, and I'm sure it will be nurtured and given a well deserved clonal name?
Interesting observation - the same situation arises as between N.x perezlarae and N, x moronensis from N. cavanillesii x N. miniatus and N. serotinus respectively.  It is difficult to tell with a wild hybrid which parent is male or female.
 I have not seen the original publication of N.x alleniae or heard of the locus classicus but it is most likely that hybrids between N. viridiflorus and both N. serotinus and N. miniatus do exist. As far as I lnow both N. viridiflorus and N. serotinus grow together in Morocco and I'm sure they do hybridise.
The controversy about N. miniatus may still have some mileage - it is suggested that it was described a couple of hundred years ago as N. x obsoletus and more recently it has been suggested it should be called N. deficiens. Please refer to the RHS DAffodils Snowdrops and Tulips Year Book that was recently mentioned.
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Re: Narcissus September - December 2009
« Reply #389 on: November 26, 2009, 06:09:32 PM »
Excellent shot Michael.

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