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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #825 on: March 09, 2015, 01:24:15 PM »
Another query - can anyone ID this crocus, please?

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #826 on: March 09, 2015, 05:27:17 PM »
Poul, look here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.msg138259#msg138259   - to see 'E.P. Bowles'   - just like yours.

Maggi,

Thank you - yes they are identical. I will correct the label, inform my source and keep on searching for the real EA Bowles :)

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #827 on: March 10, 2015, 07:19:17 AM »
Another query - can anyone ID this crocus, please?

Sorry Maggi, can't help - this doesn't look like any cultivar that I know.
Maybe it's a seedling/hybrid - at least a nice one  :o
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #828 on: March 10, 2015, 10:56:18 AM »
Thanks Hubi -  I couldn't match it to any in your wonderful lists and I did wonder if it might be a seedling. Pretty thing!
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #829 on: March 16, 2015, 11:29:15 AM »
I've got these as C. chrysanthus EA Bowles. Could someone confirm that?
The are different from John Grimshaw's pictures in Hubi's COMPILATION OF CROCUS CHRYSANTHUS/BIFLORUS, but close to the picture in Bowles book Colchicum & Crocus.

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I think that it is E.P. Bowles. See pictures:  23- E.A. Bowles; 24 - E.P. Bowles (outer flower segments outside)
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #830 on: March 16, 2015, 07:27:33 PM »
I think that it is E.P. Bowles. See pictures:  23- E.A. Bowles; 24 - E.P. Bowles (outer flower segments outside)

Thank you Janis,
I am now convinced that it is EP Bowles.

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« Reply #831 on: March 18, 2015, 06:08:06 PM »
Hi.
I buy them as Cr.chrysanthus `Herald`.
But one of them is different.
It is taller with bright yellow and more lilac than brown/lilac.
But what ist the right?


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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #832 on: March 18, 2015, 06:53:38 PM »
 Daniel, you can compare with all the cultivars here     http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5060.0 - in Thomas Huber's photos of many cultivars .  8)


 I think the larger is 'Herald' and the smaller, more brown, is 'Elegance'  :)
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« Reply #833 on: March 19, 2015, 05:13:25 PM »
Hello Maggi.
That could be.
Thanks, Daniel

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« Reply #834 on: March 19, 2015, 06:03:54 PM »
First flower on a seedling from Crocus group. It is labelled C minimus and I wondered if our croconuts could say either way whether it was. The colour is very deep and the photo does not really do it justice. Whatever it is it is very striking
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« Reply #835 on: March 19, 2015, 06:53:52 PM »
Looks right to me Ian, and not dis-similar to the form from Col de Bavella, which is also very dark on the outers.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/genera/logdir/2010Mar281269808673Crocus_minimus.pdf
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« Reply #836 on: March 20, 2015, 03:11:22 PM »
Looks right to me Ian, and not dis-similar to the form from Col de Bavella, which is also very dark on the outers.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/genera/logdir/2010Mar281269808673Crocus_minimus.pdf

Thanks Matt I had looked on the crocus pages but the anthers and style are different see picture this is why I am not sure
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« Reply #837 on: March 20, 2015, 05:48:16 PM »
Hi Ian,
If it's seed from the 'Bavella' form, the stigma will be white rather than the orangey-yellow of other C. minimus. In his book Crocuses, Janis says of 'Bavella':

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The color of wild forms of Crocus minimus varies widely. A form collected in Corsica at Col de Bavella...Quite unusual for such deep lilac-colored flowers is the white stigma which normally in C. minumus is yellow or orange.
You can see my plant from Col de Bavella here and in a cameo role here
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« Reply #838 on: March 20, 2015, 10:26:54 PM »
Hi Ian,
If it's seed from the 'Bavella' form, the stigma will be white rather than the orangey-yellow of other C. minimus. In his book Crocuses, Janis says of 'Bavella':
You can see my plant from Col de Bavella here and in a cameo role here

Matt thanks for that. The seed wasn't identified as this but it does look as if this is the one . Interestingly I saw the true Bavella the other day at a friends and this seedling seems even more striking in the colour contrast of the outers
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« Reply #839 on: March 21, 2015, 10:19:37 AM »
What struck me about your seedling, Ian was the depth of colour running down the tube and the rich velvety look of the purple. A little crackers!
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