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Armin

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #345 on: April 27, 2010, 11:07:24 PM »
Hello Anita,
welcome to the croconuts pages. Your crocus does not look like an autuum flowering C. goulimyi which has a whitish stem.
Due to the form of style it looks more like a form of C. serotinous to me.

The streaks and deformed pedals can indicate virus but not always.
Before deciding heading to the bin - can you post a close picture of the flower to see anthers and style and the other 'good ones' for comparison?
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #346 on: April 27, 2010, 11:18:11 PM »
Hi Anita
Yes, I think you are right.  It does look suspiciously like a virus infected flower.  Also I agree with Armin, it looks like C serotinus which I find most susceptible to virus :'(

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #347 on: May 11, 2010, 06:27:11 AM »
Anita, it is undoubtedly virus infected. I last autumn and this spring destroyed several stocks of C. serotinus for virus infection seen on flowers and/or in spring on leaves.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #348 on: May 14, 2010, 02:56:06 AM »
Armin, Tony and Janis,
Thanks for your advice. I didn't post another picture as it remained cloudy (but no rain) for the next three days and the flower went over without ever opening enough for a really decent shot of the style. However another flower opened from the same batch of corms and this flower was completely clean, so I have erred on the side of caution and tossed the suspect plant.

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #349 on: September 01, 2010, 04:51:47 AM »
Hi everyone, could someone id this crocus for me?
I have a shot looking down into the flower if required.
Thank you.
Doug Logan, Canterbury NZ.

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #350 on: September 01, 2010, 06:14:30 AM »
Hi everyone, could someone id this crocus for me?
I have a shot looking down into the flower if required.
Thank you.
Doug , it is C. vernus , usually one the last ones to flower.
 
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #351 on: October 03, 2010, 12:09:55 PM »
hello,
first time I have some few crocus in my collection now,
but I estimate starting already with mislabelled plants.

this was bought as "C. laevigatus albus"   ;D ;D
what might it be?





this might be true as C. cancellatus ssp. pamphylicus (white anthers)?





would be nice to hear your decisions :)

cheers
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #352 on: October 03, 2010, 03:11:36 PM »
  Goofy, the first one is C. speciosus subsp. speciosus and the second one is C. pulchellus.

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #353 on: October 03, 2010, 04:52:35 PM »
Goofy, the first one is C. speciosus subsp. speciosus and the second one is C. pulchellus.


thank you Ibrahim,
thats NO GOOD NEWS :(

I severely hope that the other corms will be true 
but I have some doubts now.........   >:( >:(

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #354 on: October 03, 2010, 07:54:23 PM »
 ;D ;D ;DI have a pot labled banaticus alba x banaticus alba, C pulchellus is looking very pretty there, but no banaticus- either I mixed the lables or the seed was wrongly named  :-\ good thing the other pots of banaticus are correct - including alba  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #355 on: October 17, 2010, 09:47:56 PM »
I bought the crocus below as crocus nudiflorus, however all the other pictures I have seen show crocus nudiflorus without any leaves. I have crocus goulimyi and it flowers with leaves but this lacks the more goblet shape. Your identification would be apprecieted.

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #356 on: October 17, 2010, 10:24:15 PM »
The very dark tube looks like C. speciosus 'Oxonian,' likewise, the deep flower colour. However, dare I mention the V word? There seems to be some streaking present.
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #357 on: October 17, 2010, 10:26:19 PM »
Graeme - not good news I'm afraid.  Doubt it is C speciosus which is as leafless at flowering as C nudiflorus.  It might be C nudiflorus from the flower but with leaves like that I'd vote for the closely related C serotinus.  However, like Lesley I think it looks to be virus infected.  The flower has rather blotchy/streaky petals in that photo.  They sometimes go a bit blotchy as they decay but that one looks pretty robust ... but not entirely healthy :'(

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #358 on: October 17, 2010, 11:17:04 PM »
Lesley/Tony - Thanks for responding.
Below is a picture of the corm I got last year. (a pretty miserable little corm)
Tony - I would agree with you that I don't think it's speciosus as they don't have leaves when they flower.
Regarding virus, it is an older flower and I did "tweak" the photo (as it wasn't quite in focus) and this has enhanced the "blotchyness" on the petals.

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #359 on: October 18, 2010, 07:55:18 AM »
Graeme, nice to see some of your crocuses.

Angie :)
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