Crocus October 2009

[Ragged Robin]

And one more - this one grown in a pot :

A very nice dark feathered form of Crocus laevigatus - I like it Gerry !! 

So do I...... really lovely looking crocus, happy as anything with you, Luc 

Knowing their 'roots' makes them all the more special 

[Regelian]

here are a few fotos from this morning.  We had enough sun to open the blossoms.  The IDs are tentative, as I have long lost the labels, so please correct me, if you believe otherwise.  Also, do we decline this genus with -us or -um?  I have seen both versions and am unsure what the protocol is.  I thought Crocus was a masculine genus, but it may be neutrum.

C. ochroleucusspeciosus albus
C. goulimyi
C. speciosus

[Oron Peri]

Jamie

Looks more like cancellatus mazziaricus, it is quite different from ochroleucus.

[Armin]

Oron,
I had the same idea but it could be C. speciosus "albus" too.
C. ochroleucus has white anthers and a different style.

[Oron Peri]

Armin

I first thought that it might be speciosus Albus too but the style in the photo is less lanceolate at the tips.
Off course it was easier if we had seen the corm, or at least the bract and bracteole,
maybe Jamie can take a photo of the lower part, also cancellat us is usually striped at its neck .

[Regelian]

Thanks for helping, guys.  I've attached two side views for your perusal.  I had doubts, as well, but, as Arim noted, cancellatus should have basal stripes on the outside and the anthers are a bit strange for speciosus.  Still, I am far from an expert in this genus and don't really know what to look for.  I simply read descriptions and attempt to illiminate the obvious.

fotos are now identified as C. specisosus albus

[Oron Peri]

Thanks Jamie

After seeing it better i would join Armin,
speciosus Albus.

[Regelian]

Great,
 I can now give it a proper ID tag in the garden (and my files!)

[Armin]

Jamie,
C. speciosus "Albus" is an old cultivar from 1913 (registered by Tubergen).

[Lesley Cox]

Jamie, we always seem to use "us" rather then "um" for Crocus, even Mathew and the like. In any case, we never decline Crocus, we always accept.

[Gerry Webster]

Also, do we decline this genus with -us or -um?  I have seen both versions and am unsure what the protocol is. I thought Crocus was a masculine genus, but it may be neutrum.

Crocus is masculine, therefore the specific epithet, if it is an adjective, should agree: C. longiflorus, C. sativus, C. pulchellus, etc. Nouns and proper names, used as specific epithets, are not affected by the gender of the specific name, so:  C. asumaniae, C. mathewii, C.goulimyi, etc. [ 'Stearn's Dictionary of Plant Names for Gardeners', W.T. Stearn (1992)]

[Maggi Young]

The sun was shining today so I took a few photos:-
08880b pulchellus albus
08875b speciosus?
08906b speciosus oxonian?
08913b eight petal mutant (bought as speciosus albus)

If anyone can confirm their i.d. I would be obliged.

         regards

             Graeme

Nice flowers, Graham..... I must have blinked when the sun came out! Names okay, I reckon... the last one; 08913b eight petal mutant  is a speciosus , just a bit wonky!

[Regelian]

Thanks, Gerry, 

I had thought it was masculine, as Crocus was a character from Greek mythology, but you never know.

Leslie,

you're such a treat!

[Graeme Strachan]

Posted by: Maggi Young 
Insert Quote
Quote from: Graeme Strachan on Today at 01:10:57 AM
The sun was shining today so I took a few photos:-
08880b pulchellus albus
08875b speciosus?
08906b speciosus oxonian?
08913b eight petal mutant (bought as speciosus albus)

If anyone can confirm their i.d. I would be obliged.

         regards

             Graeme



Nice flowers, Graham..... I must have blinked when the sun came out! Names okay, I reckon... the last one; 08913b eight petal mutant  is a speciosus , just a bit wonky!
 

Maggi - Much appreciated.
I quite like my wonky speciosus.

          Graeme

[Anthony Darby]

I came home to find that meeces have grazed my Crocus mathewii leaves. I got one last night!