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Rafa

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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #285 on: September 26, 2009, 09:29:55 AM »
Not leaves at all. Although size, or are not a valid character to identified, they are very uniform. C. salzmannii has a absolute range of colour between pure withe, pale lila, deep purple, stripped... all possibilities. Also they are very regular in size excepting  the ones that grows in full shade that could have very large perianthe.

Ecologicaly this Crocus  is also very diferent always grows in full shade, under the trees (quercus, acer....) and C. serotinus salzmannii is the oposite, it grows better if full sun, in open fields in the high mountains, where the conditions are very extreme.

I don't know if it is a valid character, but I collected seeds in La Leze last spring and they have bigger size comparing with C. serotinus salzmannii.

Well I notice diferences, but I think I haven't solid arguments  ;D

 

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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #286 on: September 26, 2009, 09:31:12 AM »
C. serotinus salzmannii, received as C. asturicus, and flowering with leaf tips just beginning to show.


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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #287 on: September 26, 2009, 09:55:10 AM »
Rafa - what wonderful landscapes. The flowers are not bad too. Many thanks.
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #288 on: September 26, 2009, 10:01:51 AM »
Que bonita!
The crocus and the surroundings!

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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #289 on: September 26, 2009, 10:28:35 AM »
C. serotinus salzmannii, received as C. asturicus, and flowering with leaf tips just beginning to show.

Ashley - nice to see this since my solitary corm has yet to produce a flower. Not even a nose showing as yet this year. Still, my time will come (I hope!).
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #290 on: September 26, 2009, 11:15:11 AM »
Ashley - nice to see this since my solitary corm has yet to produce a flower. Not even a nose showing as yet this year. Still, my time will come (I hope!).

Thanks Gerry.  In my experience flowering time and flowering order vary from year to year, according to timing of my 'autumn storms', uneven storm intensity from pot to pot, variation in porosity of growing medium, and myriad other imponderables.

I have no doubt your day will come, but in the meantime please excuse me as I continue waiting patiently for a sternbergia flower hereabouts ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #291 on: September 26, 2009, 11:56:47 AM »
Ashley - nice to see this since my solitary corm has yet to produce a flower. Not even a nose showing as yet this year. Still, my time will come (I hope!).
Thanks Gerry.  In my experience flowering time and flowering order vary from year to year, according to timing of my 'autumn storms', uneven storm intensity from pot to pot, variation in porosity of growing medium, and myriad other imponderables.
Ashley - My experience too. This year they seem particularly erratic, especially with regard to flowering order.
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #292 on: September 26, 2009, 12:54:08 PM »
Here are Cc. pulchellus, kotschyanus 'Ares' (back) and longiflorus in the bulb house.
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #293 on: September 26, 2009, 01:16:23 PM »
Here are Cc. pulchellus, kotschyanus 'Ares' (back) and longiflorus in the bulb house.

Anthony, the top photo isn't pulchellus. It's either a yellow-throated speciosus or a hybrid, as pulchellus has white anthers.
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #294 on: September 26, 2009, 02:13:28 PM »
Not a rare plant, but I newer saw an autumn species with such a lot variations of purple: only Crocus banaticus
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #295 on: September 26, 2009, 03:17:28 PM »
I love the planting combination, it sets the colours off perfectly  ;)
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #296 on: September 26, 2009, 03:45:17 PM »
From Feb 14th 2008 Tony G said http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=search2
"asturicus = serotinus ssp ?  I cannot recall which and I am not at home now!"

I must relabel mine.
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #297 on: September 26, 2009, 03:48:17 PM »
It's interesting how variable the flowering time across the UK and Ireland. One reason we have to do a trial with autumn and spring flowering Crocus
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #298 on: September 26, 2009, 03:51:58 PM »
Not a rare plant, but I newer saw an autumn species with such a lot variations of purple: only Crocus banaticus
Strangely enough, here we find that all colour variations of Crocus banaticus tend to open at different times! A real treat to see such variation in that happy and natural- looking  clump.  8)
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Re: Crocus September 2009
« Reply #299 on: September 26, 2009, 03:55:14 PM »
Wow, so many new posts in just one day since my last visit  :o

Janis, what a great series of photos. You really have a wonderful collection of crocus.
I hope I will be able to visit you one day when the crocus are in full flower!!


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