Crocus March 2009

[Armin]

next batch...

[Armin]

Thanks to Thomas for "Herald".

and final.....

C. chrysanthus  Zwanenburg Bronze -0424
C. sieberi atticus Firefly -0436

[tonyg]

Finally a crocus I am not sure of, as i must have grown from a small corm left behind by the voles. Any ideas?

Crocus versicolor, imperati or etruscus.  Favoured in that order.  Show us a pic of the flower from above.

[I.S.]

Armin your Chrysantus series are all superb...

[tonyg]

Yes! Great series Armin. 
Ibrahim your report on Crocus pestalozzae is very interesting despite the rain.  Thanks!

[Sinchets]

Simon,
do you have a picture showing the outer markings of "Dorothy"?

Hi Armin. I will try for a picture of the outer markings tomorrow. I am open to the idea that my 'Dorothy' may not be true- she was a garden centre purchase several years ago.

[Armin]

Ibrahim, Tony,
thanks - it is a pleasure.

Simon,
I'm anxious what the experts say regarding my cultivars "Dorothy" and "Fuscotinctus".
This year I can see differences between them.

I studied the plantsman March 1997 article. But must still confirm when open if my "Dorothy" has basal lobes with black.
Not easy to distinguish both, they resemble so much.
I wait for your picture.

[tonyg]

Here are a couple of better pics of the Crocus vernus that I posted recently.  To compliment them other forms of Crocus vernus.
Crocus vernus albiflorus Wurzjoch
Crocus vernus albiflorus Paso de Elbe
Crocus vernus albiflorus Susten Pass
Crocus vernus Montenegro
Crocus vernus Val D'Incles, Andorra
The last one brings back special memories.  I collected the seed on my first mountain flower holiday in 1996

[Gerdk]

Here a second attempt (first time the pictures did not appear)
2 Crocus from the same place - Gökçe Pass, near Alanya - Turkey
identification welcome - TH told me something about hybrids ( I can't memorize it)

Gerd

[I.S.]

Gerd, both of them are super. The area is C. biflorus subsp. isauricus and C. chrysanthus habitation. But I am not sure also to tell you
And I want to attache the pictures of C. biflorus subsp. crewei from last week. I have seen severel locations of this crocus. What I think for these biflorus subspecieses. are more identifiable by leaves. ( number, color or wideness )
For example the C. biflorus subsp. crewei which I have seen have always 3 leaves just for yung corms have 2, the leaves were quite wide ( maybe widest in the biflorus grp.) and very nive grey color.
-Crocus biflorus subsp. crewei forms.

[Sinchets]

Finally a crocus I am not sure of, as i must have grown from a small corm left behind by the voles. Any ideas?

Crocus versicolor, imperati or etruscus.  Favoured in that order.  Show us a pic of the flower from above.

Sorry today was not sunny enough to take a pic from above- I will try tomorrow. Cc. versicolor and imperati are both on my 'lost in action' list, and were both taken before i had chance to see them in flower.

[Sinchets]

Simon, I'm anxious what the experts say regarding my cultivars "Dorothy" and "Fuscotinctus".
This year I can see differences between them. I studied the plantsman March 1997 article. But must still confirm when open if my "Dorothy" has basal lobes without black. Not easy to distinguish both, they resemble so much.
I wait for your picture.

Armin, this is my 'Dorothy' taken today- again I am interested to hear if she is true.
Simon.

[tonyg]

Crocus corsicus and crocus minimus.  Are they one and the same?  Dissection might help but minimus does have differently shaped flowers ..... but I'm still not convinced.
Top pic 1994 sowings Crocus corsicus
2nd pic 1998 sowings ex 94 seedlings
Crocus minimus - not trade form
Above 3 lined up for comparison
Crocus minimus Sardinian form
More minimus forms next week hopefully.

[tonyg]

Crocus kosaninii - 2 forms. 
Crocus etrscus - from Buried Treasures. (Rannveig Wallis)
Crocus veluchensis - seed raised
Crocus versicolor

[Gerry Webster]

Tony - your corsicus/minimus post is very interesting. BM seems to present a good case for two distinct species. On the basis of flower shape (from the side) & markings I would have assigned your first photo to C.minimus if I hadn't read the caption. So much for my powers of discrimination! Maybe dissection, examination of the seed & other subtle features (& a chromosome count) are really necessary  to arrive at any secure conclusion.