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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2009, 02:52:09 PM »
ask and you receive ::)

I ask! With thanks.

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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2009, 02:57:50 PM »
another identification please : this bulb was commercialised by Dix as Crocus candidus ssp. subflavus, but this name is not included on the alpine house website http://www.thealpinehouse.fsnet.co.uk/crocus%20pages/
nevertheless, I think that the very wide leaves are very specific : isn't it ?
From memory - Crocus candidus var subflavus = Crocus olivieri.  It shares the few broad leaves and some other key features of Crocus olivieri.  The name you have has been attached to a plant in commerce not a wild specimen.  It is not a subspecies.  Ibrahim posted a pic of wild C candidus last year which was a pale orange but not the vivid yellow of this plant.
edit - I now see Gerry has answered in the same vein
I got my info from the RHS database. According to BM, these plants are "probably forms or hybrids  of C. olivieri". Relying on my memory of a plant grown long ago,  I'm inclined to think the latter.
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2009, 03:00:10 PM »
Simon, your C. olivieri looks very much like C. flavus!
Spot on Thomas - looks like the same plant I saw at Harlow AGS Show on Saturday also labelled as C olivieri but clearly Crocus flavus.  (I did not click the pic to see it properly first time :P)

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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2009, 03:01:32 PM »
Simon, your C. olivieri looks very much like C. flavus!
Thanks Thomas that'd be about right- fetching Crocus flavus all the way across Europe to an area which has Crocus flavus by the field load  ::)
Maybe we need to label them all like the Dutch packets you see in garden centres 'Specie Crocus- Orange'
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2009, 03:03:24 PM »
Many crocus are out, but the sun wasn't strong enough to open them, so I only have a few to show:
- chrysanthus with black anthers
- michelsonii Odissey
- angustifolius, welcoming everybody at a friends house door
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2009, 03:06:17 PM »
The world of bulbs is certainly a lucky dip-reminds me of buying cheap tins of food where the labels have come off. Crocus 'Baked Beans' when i thought i had Crocus 'Pineapple Slices'  ;)
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2009, 03:10:54 PM »
Unfortunately you rarely open the bean tin to find caviar :(

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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2009, 03:17:45 PM »
Unfortunately you rarely open the bean tin to find caviar :(
Does that explain why you don't see Crocus flavus offered for sale much- it's the 'universal lubricant' for selling a range of similar species. I guess some people are better at shaking the tin and hearing the beans.
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2009, 06:15:59 PM »
some new flowers today:
Crocus x veluchensis 'Rainbowgold',a cross between veluchensis and cvijicii
          michelsonii from Iran
          sieheanus
          sieberi ssp.nivalis
          x reticulatus, ( reticulatus x angustifolius)
          aerius, possibly a hybrid
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2009, 06:20:50 PM »
and more:
Crocus biflorus ssp.crewei
             ``          nubigena , thanks Thomas
             ``          ??? Belpinar Gec
             ``          ??? Goktepe
           bornmuelleri
           abantensis
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2009, 07:13:11 PM »
Dirk
Put me on the waiting list for the  ??? species and the bornmulleri!  All those you have posted are superb :)

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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2009, 07:19:32 PM »
Goodness me, no shortage of insect pollinators at Dirk's crocus, is there?  Makes a change from hearing about those "Snowdrop Lunches" to see a really busy Crocus Lunch  ;D
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2009, 07:27:36 PM »
Yes!  I meant to ask Dirk if he keeps bees ;D

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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2009, 07:48:15 PM »
 ... and who says bees are getting rare!
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Re: Crocus March 2009
« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2009, 08:32:50 PM »
In flower now.
Various forms of Crocus cvijcii.
Two different seedlings of Crocus corsicus - no yellow in the throat.
Crocus vernus National Park - one of Janis's finest
« Last Edit: March 03, 2009, 08:34:48 PM by tonyg »

 


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