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Eric Locke

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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #225 on: April 27, 2009, 02:07:10 PM »
Luc - This Chunii is almost white unlike the other I have in flower at present, which has much pinker petals but not the lavender markings on the lip of the first photo.

Not many I don"t like either . ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #226 on: April 27, 2009, 04:48:38 PM »
 ;D Thanks Paul help me finding such a wouderful thread~
here's my aurita and aurita albiflora
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #227 on: April 27, 2009, 06:13:13 PM »
Greetings, Yang! Very good to have you join the Forum. beautiful blooms in your photos, thank you.
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #228 on: April 27, 2009, 06:29:19 PM »
After some white and white/yellow grandiflora some different grandiflora from my collection. The colours are much darker than you see and the flowers are very tall!
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Eric Locke

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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #229 on: April 27, 2009, 07:49:57 PM »
Hans - Some very colourfull x Barbarae. 8)
 Amazing the variety this natural hybrid produces.

Yang - I do like your White Aurita. :P  This is certainly on my wants list.

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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #230 on: April 27, 2009, 09:04:53 PM »
Hi everybody,
so in Czech has definitely started the main season I think.
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #231 on: April 28, 2009, 08:10:42 AM »
Lovely batch Karel !!
Great stuff !  :D
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #232 on: April 28, 2009, 10:25:12 AM »
Hi Yang,
Your white aurita is stunning. I had read that aurita can sometimes be white but I had never seen one before and I was beginning to think that white aurita did not really exist (the only other picture I saw that claimed to be one was actually P. chunii and was not truly white but a very pale pink). Thank you so much for sharing this picture with us. I am like Eric - and probably lots of other people! - who would love to obtain one of these someday. As far as I know, no-one in the Uk has one. Co-incidentally, I have just flowered a hybrid called Ueli Wackernagel that has aurita as one parent, which was a sibling cross between two pale pink flowered forms. Two of the offspring have flowered with pure white flowers. Pure white hybrids are almost unknown so I was extremely pleased with these. I will post pictures soon in the topic for my own hybrids.
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #233 on: April 28, 2009, 06:55:20 PM »
Eric,

are you sure that my pics are from x barbarae?
What is x barbarae or are all plants grandiflora (many people identify only white Pleiones as grandiflora)?
At some locations you can only find pink grandiflora (=x barbarae??). Who is the partner, when there are no other Pleiones?


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Eric Locke

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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #234 on: April 28, 2009, 11:01:07 PM »
Hans

Originally it was thought that Glandiflora had either white or pink flowers . More recently it was thought that the Pink forms could be a natural hybrid between the true White grandiflora and either Bulbocodioides or Pleionoides because -White forms generally flower earlier than Pink forms and the huge variability of the Pink forms.
Several years ago Kew Gardens examined many flowers and also carried out DNA analysis. Results showed that the pink forms are indeed distinct from the white ones. Also that they vary in colouration,size of the flowers and in the morphology of the lip than the white ones and often make particularly large pseudobulbs. DNA analysis confirmed that the pink forms are a probable hybrid, with the white Grandiflora as one parent and Bulbocodioides (or similar species as the other). They concluded that these Pink flowered hybrids should ALL be called P x Barbarae and NOT Glandiflora.

With regard to the parents being found at different locations - Grandiflora is generally thought to be found in more southern locations to either of Bulbocodiodes or Pleionoides . It is possible that that known collection data is not correct and it is also possible that at some time in the distant past that these species did grow in the same locations.

Eric
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #235 on: April 28, 2009, 11:45:37 PM »
Back to the Photos.

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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #236 on: April 29, 2009, 06:32:33 AM »
Thank you Eric!
Some new Pleiones from my collection

 Pleione aurita 2
 Pleione Orizaba 1
 Pleione Stromboli Fireball 1
 Pleione Versailles Heron 1
 Pleione Volcanello Song Thrush 1
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #237 on: April 29, 2009, 03:10:00 PM »
I do not understand anything: We say x barbarae is a hybrid between grandiflora and ? (pleionoides or bulbocodioides). We produce so many wonderful hybrids, but there is not one hybrid of these Pleiones which looks like x barbarae! I have tried, but lost all seeds due to a flood in 2002.
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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #238 on: April 29, 2009, 04:49:49 PM »
Two new flowers from today.
 Pln. Santorini 'Yellow Wagtail'
 Pln. Soufiere
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Eric Locke

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Re: Pleione early 2009.
« Reply #239 on: April 29, 2009, 08:33:01 PM »
I do not understand anything: We say x barbarae is a hybrid between grandiflora and ? (pleionoides or bulbocodioides). We produce so many wonderful hybrids, but there is not one hybrid of these Pleiones which looks like x barbarae! I have tried, but lost all seeds due to a flood in 2002.

Hans - There are not many hybrids registered to date that use x Barbarae as a parent.
There is one however that does look very much like some x Barbarae clones.
 Vicky (Bulbocodiodes x X Barbarae )
I have used x Barbarae myself for a few crosses, but these are a few years away from flowering.

Karel - Nice to see a photo of Santorini "Yellow Wagtail". I will add this to my List for Autumn. ;)

Eric
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