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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 11:19:52 AM »
Maybe it is  the lack of color variation that makes them a little boring... ???

Oron, this can't be the reason - think of Galanthus, these "boring-just-white-flowers"!   8)


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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 01:00:14 PM »
Oron, Your Ornithogalum is a stunning. Thank you. We hope you obtain seeds ...!!!
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2008, 01:06:42 PM »
Maybe it is  the lack of color variation that makes them a little boring... ???

Oron, this can't be the reason - think of Galanthus, these "boring-just-white-flowers"!   8)

Maggi, if there is tooo much protest against my posting, better delete it before my life is in danger  ;D

Hi Thomas,

Maybe I should have said ' Just white, star shaped flowers' which are very similar to many other species, while galanthus has a unique form which is more exciting. [but lets don't give the Galanthophyls a reason to pick up their noses ;)
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2008, 05:56:50 PM »
Ornithogalum's are worth heeding.
There is certainly a place for them, everywhere.

O. lanceolatum is lovely.
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2008, 09:41:28 PM »
Perhaps since there's obviously some interest in this thread, and some knowledgeable posters, it's time to repost the pics taken in September in Otto's garden near Melbourne (mid spring). We still have no ID for it. Help please?

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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2008, 11:14:23 PM »
could they be O. nutans which can be a magnificent and robust plant?
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2008, 03:38:38 AM »
Not the same as others I have as O. nutans.  It is a stunning plant.  Was amazed when I saw it flowering at Otto's when I was down there (at the same time as Lesley saw it).  Very distinctive, whatever it is.
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2008, 06:25:19 AM »
Lesley,

Seems to me like O. bungei from Iran.

O. nutans reminds of this one but has less flowers per stem, more open, bell shaped, facing down.

I must agree with Paul, it is a stunning plant.

Attached a photo of O. nutans from Rhodos [not a very good quality]
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2008, 09:23:18 AM »
Oron,

That is far more like what I have as O. nutans.  Otto's has larger flowers, much more elongated petals, and a better head of flowers per stem.
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 09:29:48 AM »
Oron

I have never seen and cannot find a picture of O. bungei and wonder do you have one.

I am not disagreeing with you but would say that O nutans is very variable and in the right conditions,such as moist areas on Ulu Dag is 40cms high with masses of flowers. In other drier places only 20cms and a few flowers.

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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2008, 09:44:13 AM »
Tony,

O. bungei was in commerce in Holland  about 15 years ago, I grow it for a while but it didn't last very long.
It was sold under O. hyrcanum which is its synonymous.

There is a good photo of it in 'Bulbous plants of Turkey and Iran - Peter Sheasby'
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2008, 09:54:15 AM »
Isn't there a South African species with a name as long as your arm?
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2008, 10:20:54 AM »
Anthony

The one I know  from S Africa is O. thyrsoides which is common in garden centres.  I also think it a widespread genus and there are many  species across Africa
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2008, 10:21:51 AM »
Isn't there a South African species with a name as long as your arm?

Ornithogalum thirtythreeandahalfinches?
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Re: Ornithogalum
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2008, 10:47:22 AM »
No, longer Cliff, by one letter. ;D Ornithogalum adseptentrionesvergentulum.
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