Sending Pleione to Norway

[Slug Killer]

Hi, later on this year I was going to send some Pleione to Norway as a plant swap but is Norway+Switzerland classed as under EC regulations or do they need Cities permits?

Dave

[Maggi Young]

I'm not sure, Dave, but I would suspect that CITES permits are required .... I thought they were for ALL orchids?

[Slug Killer]

Hi Maggi, Cities certificates are not required for trading between (or within) the EU. I'm sure I read somewhere that Norway and Switzerland where going to adopt this rule for trading with EU countries but don't know if anything was ever done about it (I suspect not). Just wondering if any Norwegian forum members can put me straight on this.

[Magnar]

As far as I know we still need Cities certificates and aslo phytosanitary certificate to import plants to Norway. I hear plant sendings are often caught in the customs if they lack the right papers.

[kirsitn]

Magnar is right. All plants (including bulbs) that are sent to Norway must be accompanied by a phytosanitary certificate, and species on the CITES list also recquire a CITES sertificate. The only plant material that can be sent to Norway without any certificates is up to 50 packets of seeds. It is also legal to bring up to 5 potted plants for indoor use as hand luggage across the border without a phyto cert, but the CITES certificate is still recquired.

[Slug Killer]

Hi, thanks for the response. Looks like I will have to use carrier pigeons to send him some bulbils .

[Heather Smith]

A friend of mine in the City Parks Department says all the plants brought in from beyond the British Isles is illegal without special permits - so all the plants brought in from the Czech Republic, although bare-rooted, could render one liable to a fine.
Is he right??

[Maggi Young]

Heather, I don't think that's quite right.... bare rooted plants can be fine from EU and nonEU, depending on certain requirements......
See this DEFRA advice file: http://www.defra.gov.uk/planth/publicat/impguid.pdf


also: http://www.defra.gov.uk/planth/publicat/ifindoubt.pdf     ......you will see from this leaflet that  imports from EU countries are permitted, providng the plants have been grown in those countries.

[Maggi Young]

 For EU Countires: Austria, Belgium, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark,
Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary,
the Irish Republic, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta,
the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal (including Madeira), Slovakia,
Slovenia, Spain (EXCLUDING CANARY ISLANDS), Sweden and
the UK.
Andorra, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, San Marino and
Switzerland are also treated as part of the EU for the import of
plants and plant products...........
AN EU COUNTRY: You may bring in any plants or plant products provided they were grown in these countries.


Non- EU : Albania, Algeria, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria,
Canary Islands, Ceuta, Croatia, Egypt, The Faroe Isles, Gibraltar,
Iceland, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Libyan Arab Jamrahiriya,
Liechtenstein, Macedonia (Former Yugoslav Republic of), Melilla,
Republic of Moldovia, Morocco, Norway, Romania, parts of Russia
(you will need to check), Serbia and Montenegro, Syrian Arab
Republic, Tunisia, Turkey and Ukraine.
If the country is not listed here and is not in the EU, the
restrictions detailed under ‘ALL OTHER COUNTRIES’ apply.

[Heather Smith]

Thanks Maggi    Useful info.  I would like to be able to bring in alpines from Prague next year.

[Slug Killer]

Hi Maggi, think Switzerland must be a new addition as I'm sure the were classed the same as Norway a while back. More the better

[art600]

I wonder why Romania and Bulgaria are on the non-Eu list, even though they have been part of the Eu since 2007.

[Maggi Young]

I wonder why Romania and Bulgaria are on the non-Eu list, even though they have been part of the Eu since 2007.

No, idea, Arthur  ..... my quotes come from the leaflet detailed on DERFA's website...... here are contact details for anyone wishing to make further enquiries:
"This leaflet gives you a summary of the rules. It is not fully
comprehensive. Pest and disease outbreaks can occur at any time
and these rules are subject to amendment without notice.
Remember, what you can bring into the UK depends on where you
are travelling from, not where the item has been grown or
purchased. If you are in any doubt about what you can or cannot
bring into the UK you should contact:
The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra)
(Plant Health Service Delivery Unit)
Between 08:00 hrs and 17:00 hrs, Monday to Friday:
From the UK: 01904 455174
From outside the UK: +44 (0) 1904 455174
Between 17:00 hrs and 08:00 hrs, Monday to Friday and all day
Saturday and Sunday:
From the UK: 08459 335577
From outside the UK: +44 (0) 20 7238 6951
There is also a minicom/textphone number for the deaf and hard
of hearing: 0845 300 1998.
Check Defra’s website: www.defra.gov.uk
Email: planthealth.info@defra.gsi.gov.uk   



........... probably the leaflet has just not been updated on the website!