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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #105 on: October 20, 2017, 11:21:09 AM »
It is a strange season. Crocus vallicola is still flowering, months later than usual.
The late spring flowering Crocus minimus has leaves, C. tauricus is almost in bud and C. cvijicii is above ground.
But these behave normal:
Crocus ochroleucus
Crocus robertianus
Crocus wattiorum

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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #106 on: October 20, 2017, 02:21:24 PM »
It is a strange season. Crocus vallicola is still flowering, months later than usual.
The late spring flowering Crocus minimus has leaves, C. tauricus is almost in bud and C. cvijicii is above ground.
But these behave normal:
Crocus ochroleucus
Crocus robertianus
Crocus wattiorum

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The same with me - vallicola 2 stocks still in full flower. From spring bloomers only suaveolens at this moment showed leaf tips. Others still are underground. Very surprised about your tauricus. Never saw it in autumn. C. minimus here is bertween the latest spring bloomers (wild forms) - it bloomed with me even in mid-May.
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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #107 on: October 20, 2017, 08:52:39 PM »
Single alternative could be blue form of niveus, although then stigma must be more divided. Of course you could identify by corms. No one other crocus has so polished corm tunics as goulimyi, very different from finely reticulated tunics of niveus. Branching of stigma can vary and is something unclear on your pictures. Just where in Pellopones you collected it?

It was collected in southern Mani, on the same place was Crocus niveus. Previous photo was taken by mobile, now it should by better.

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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #108 on: October 20, 2017, 09:29:47 PM »
A few crocuses from the garden

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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #109 on: October 20, 2017, 10:32:05 PM »
The same with me - vallicola 2 stocks still in full flower. From spring bloomers only suaveolens at this moment showed leaf tips. Others still are underground. Very surprised about your tauricus. Never saw it in autumn. C. minimus here is bertween the latest spring bloomers (wild forms) - it bloomed with me even in mid-May.

These C. minimus from Dirk flowered in April this spring, so I am very surprised too. C. tauricus (which I got from Augi last year) flowered in February this spring. My suaveolens has also leaves now, but that is not unusual, as they sometimes flower before X-mas.

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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #110 on: October 21, 2017, 02:48:52 AM »
Beautiful Crocus flowers from all! an inspiration to grow more from seeds.

Meanwhile, in September I bought few packets with the label - C. zonatus pink (which I google and saw the name is kotschyanus) but now they flower and look like C. ochroleucus if I'm not wrong? I have C. ochroleucus from previous year but not flowering yet. They are terrible with names here (Dutch stock); C. speciosus is still sold as C. sativus....

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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #111 on: October 21, 2017, 05:37:37 AM »
It was collected in southern Mani, on the same place was Crocus niveus. Previous photo was taken by mobile, now it should by better.
99.99% - Crocus niveus.
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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #112 on: October 21, 2017, 05:39:56 AM »
These C. minimus from Dirk flowered in April this spring, so I am very surprised too. C. tauricus (which I got from Augi last year) flowered in February this spring. My suaveolens has also leaves now, but that is not unusual, as they sometimes flower before X-mas.

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With me earliest is C. hittiticus, quite often blooming starts even at Christmas, but mostly in January and with frosts it is covered in full blooms.
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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #113 on: October 21, 2017, 05:46:13 AM »
Beautiful Crocus flowers from all! an inspiration to grow more from seeds.

Meanwhile, in September I bought few packets with the label - C. zonatus pink (which I google and saw the name is kotschyanus) but now they flower and look like C. ochroleucus if I'm not wrong? I have C. ochroleucus from previous year but not flowering yet. They are terrible with names here (Dutch stock); C. speciosus is still sold as C. sativus....

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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #114 on: October 21, 2017, 07:01:34 AM »
99.99% - Crocus niveus.

Why not Crocus goulimyi? The style overtops the anthers just a bit and is not much divided. Maybe a bit too much?

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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #115 on: October 21, 2017, 03:38:06 PM »
Why not Crocus goulimyi? The style overtops the anthers just a bit and is not much divided. Maybe a bit too much?

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Leaves! In goulimyi always they are developed at blooming time (I never saw goulimyi in flowers without leaves), but exact identification will be done after checking corm tunics.
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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #116 on: October 21, 2017, 11:00:15 PM »
Crocus tournefortii VISA 08-50
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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #117 on: October 21, 2017, 11:53:13 PM »
Looks like C. ochroleucus

Thank you Janis. Although I'm not a Crocus collector I like to know what grows in the garden.
Today I found another group flowering (from the same packets of 'Crocus zonatus - pink') and they look different. Maybe this is kotschyanus? Pictures not very good, they are not white, with a tinge of lilac.


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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2017, 06:29:23 AM »
Leaves! In goulimyi always they are developed at blooming time (I never saw goulimyi in flowers without leaves), but exact identification will be done after checking corm tunics.

Thank you Janis. You know where to look at and we all can learn nearly every day from you.
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Re: Crocus October 2017
« Reply #119 on: October 22, 2017, 02:53:18 PM »
Crocus mathewii, It must be a very easy species to grow, because this clump blooms every year without any special care

 


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