Connoisseur Collection

[afw]

Luit
  We, the forum members, have discussed deadheading bulbs once they have flowered, does Mr X do the same as the various sectors cease to flower?

 I'm not sure what your rainfall is like compared to UK but one would think that the sand would drain very quickly so what happens in a very dry spell -  many watering cans!

 Are the bulbs all planted at the same depth or according to the accepted wisdom of two or three times the height of the bulb.

Regards
Alan
 

[Lvandelft]

Luit
  We, the forum members, have discussed deadheading bulbs once they have flowered, does Mr X do the same as the various sectors cease to flower?

Yes, he takes every day when overripe and being sure of right variety flowers of.

I'm not sure what your rainfall is like compared to UK but one would think that the sand would drain very quickly so what happens in a very dry spell -  many watering cans!
 

The soil below the bulbs is always wet enough, so no watering.
The groundwater is always at appr. 40-50 cm deep.
I put hereby an already showed picture of the bulbfields elsewhere, which illustrates what I mean.

Are the bulbs all planted at the same depth or according to the accepted wisdom of two or three times the height of the bulb.

Only Narcissus are planted maybe slightly deeper and Crocus and several other little bulbs maybe a little higher.
But there is not much difference in depth.

[Armin]

Luit,
impressive - the high water level and the bulb fields nearby.

[annew]

Stunning! You both deserve our praise - the grower for growing, and you for showing - thank you.

[Lvandelft]

Thank you for your nice words Anne.
But it's really a pleasure for me to go to the field and make pictures there.
In this way I do learn a lot about bulbs too.

Now that for most gardeners Narcissus-time is almost over, it is interesting
maybe to show some, which are late flowering.

Narcissus DIV 5 Honey Guide R.A. Scamp '98         
Narcissus DIV 5 Petrel
Narcissus DIV 13 jonquilla R.A. Scamp '95   
Narcissus DIV 3 Segovia Lentefl. '93           
Narcissus DIV 3 Xit Av. B. '98           
Narcissus DIV 3Yellow Xit R.A. Sc. 2000
Narcissus DIV 3 Paula Cottel Br. Gard. 2     
Narcissus DIV 13 x intermedius             

[Lvandelft]

Narcissus DIV 7 Flycatcher Br. Dunc. 2000         
Narcissus poeticus Raddiiflorus var poetarum r. Gard.       
Narcissus DIV 7 Piper's Barn R.A.Scamp '96   
Narcissus DIV 9 praecox R.A. Scamp '98         
Narcissus obesus Diamond Ring PCN '06             
Narcissus DIV 9 Omega Oregn Trail '04   
Narcissus DIV 7 Chit Chat Br. Gard. '01   
 

[Paul T]

All great, Luit!!  Thanks for taking the time to photograph, prepare and post them for us to enjoy.

[Armin]

Luit, very beautiful 
I like the N. Poeticus raddiiflorus...

[Joakim B]

WOOOOOOW his is so goood
I have wanted to see this for soooo looong.
Great work Luit
It is really appreciated. If more people looked at what there is maybe there would be more varieties for sale even at supermakets.


Maybe  bit off topic and if so I am sorry for it but I just wondered about the cheap 5-10 packs that are sold in supermarkets and hardware stores etc.
It is a bit sad to sell "red" Tulips flowering mars to june with a hight of 20-70 cm as is too often the case. When it most often is only one type that I presume is named, or are there a lot of seed grown tulips grown for "cheap bags"? I would pay more for the bulb if it was written "appeldoorn" even if it would have the rest of the characteristics of the "red".

I mean combine quality with quantity or give quality to quantity without much extra effort I would assume and there might be more money in it.!! That would make everyone happier I would guess.


Kind regards for a lovely thread great work that is very appreciated.

Kind regards
Joakim

[Lvandelft]

WOOOOOOW his is so goood
I have wanted to see this for soooo looong.
Great work Luit
It is really appreciated. If more people looked at what there is maybe there would be more varieties for sale even at supermakets.


Maybe  bit off topic and if so I am sorry for it but I just wondered about the cheap 5-10 packs that are sold in supermarkets and hardware stores etc.
It is a bit sad to sell "red" Tulips flowering mars to june with a hight of 20-70 cm as is too often the case. When it most often is only one type that I presume is named, or are there a lot of seed grown tulips grown for "cheap bags"? I would pay more for the bulb if it was written "appeldoorn" even if it would have the rest of the characteristics of the "red".
I mean combine quality with quantity or give quality to quantity without much extra effort I would assume and there might be more money in it.!! That would make everyone happier I would guess.
Kind regards for a lovely thread great work that is very appreciated.
Kind regards
Joakim

Joakim, I totally understand what you mean, but I think there are two types of customers.
One type want only to buy bulbs they have seen on pictures or at Garden shows or read about in some journal. They order them at specialist traders or good Garden centers and expect to get the bulbs labelled right to name and pay a “normal” price.
Then there are many people who just buy bulbs impulsive in supermarkets or hardware stores, why they see the nice pictures and the cheap prices.
For this special market, supermarkets are looking for catchliners which are easy to sell.
These might be bulbs, but can be almost everything else.
The only thing counting is profit.

These bulbs are mostly small, hopefully just flowering size, and you’ll never be sure of what is coming out.
Some years ago I saw myself such packets with narcissus (yellow trumpets on the picture)
I bought one packet because I wanted to know how it is possible to deliver bulbs at these prices. Well there came in the first year some flowers of the double tazetta types.
Now in the third year they are much better flowering.
But most people don’t complain because it was such a bargain.

I’ll be the last who says that I like this way of selling bulbs.

[Lvandelft]

Before you think in the collection are only tulips grown, here some other bulbs.           

Bellevalia pycnantha v.T. '02 1     
Bellevalia pycnantha 2                 
Anemone Blanda White Splendour         
Allium triquetrum   
Camassia leichtlinii 1                 
Camassia leichtlinii 2               
Camassia leichtlinii Blauwe Donau PCN '96 
Ipheion uniflorum Jessie W. de G. '06     
Ipheion uniflorum Rolf Fiedler C.S.W. '99
Ipheion uniflorum Charlotte Bishop Av. Bulbs '01 

[Lvandelft]

and there is a good selection of Hyacinthoides hispanica.
Maybe if Forumists are specially interested to compare these
varieties, I should put them in a special Topic in Bulbs General???

Hyacinthoides hispanica Blue Queen PCN '98             
Hyacinthoides hispanica Dainty Maid CSW 2000     
Hyacinthoides hispanica La Grandesse Br. Gard. '02
Hyacinthoides hispanica Rosabella Br. Gard. '02
Hyacinthoides hispanica Rose Queen PCN '04                                           
Hyacinthoides hispanica Danube PCN '04 
Because I put a wrong pict. of H. Excelsior I changed this an put H. non-scripta in as well. Ed. L.
Hyacinthoides non-scripta
Hyacinthoides hispanica Excelsior sel. '05 
  

[Lvandelft]

Here first a picture of the beds with mostly Triumph and Single Late tulips.
and on the right hand a field with Allium Mars for cutting the flowers for trade.
Some Frit's and Ornithogalum:

Tulipa beds   
Allium Mars field   
Fritillaria acmopetala ssp. wendelboi PCN '97     
Fritillaria imperialis Ruduke J.R. '07   
Fritillaria michailovskyi v.T. '97   
Ornithogalum umbellatum v.T. '02 
Ornithogalum montanum J. Zweeris '98         
Ornithogalum oreoides J.R. '02  2     
Ornithogalum ortophyllum J.R. '02     

[Joakim B]

 
Great pictures very nice.
Luit I must confess nice pictures can make me buy bulbs as well.  . My comment was more when there is the right stuff in the bag but still silly named.  Most people can see a picture and see "red tulips" so there is not much "extra attraction" in it. It might be Appeldorn or some other named variant and hence a miss not to use it.
What I am saying is that I think many would pay 1.1€ for Appeldorn rather than paying 1€ for "red tulips" even with the same picture. . Not 100% sure but I am sure most people would be happier to pay 1€ for the "Appeldorn" than 1€ for "red tulips" so I do not understand the gain in not having the names there. Maybe next year it will be different but they can use the same packages with the same picture and thus save money. I understand and agree that in mixes the bulbs are often barley flowering sized and that makes it cheaper to produce but that is an other question.
Most often I get the right stuff but in mixes You are always up for surprises. Often we remember when we get the wrong stuff but not when we get the wright stuff so I think we all tend to believe it is worse than what it is.

Kind regards
Joakim

[Armin]

Luit,
exciting pictures again and again...

Thank you for showing the difference of Hyacinthoides non-scripta and H. hispanica.
I'm sure now having receipt H. hispanica instead of non-scripta