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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: medstd on May 09, 2010, 06:12:53 AM

Title: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: medstd on May 09, 2010, 06:12:53 AM: Any one who know this plant.
I received as name as Crinum amoenum, But I don't think so.
Her leave not same as Crinum, But as Boophane sp.

I'm sure, In Thailand are new to imported and collected Boophane sp. and It's will not easy to find offset in plant market as price as low.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4590504477_fc701113a8_o.jpg)

Thank you,
Thanin from Thailand
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb??
Post by: Maggi Young on May 09, 2010, 09:24:51 AM: Hello Thanin; a warm welcome to you. I hope that our many clever Forumists will be able to help identify your bulb :)
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb??
Post by: medstd on May 09, 2010, 04:14:17 PM: Thank Maggi (http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/Smileys/classic/100.gif)
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb??
Post by: Alberto on May 10, 2010, 09:09:36 PM: Hello Thanin, it is not a Boophane at all. It is just a Crinum with disticous leaves. There are only a few species with such fan of leaves, but the one from Thailand is undetermined! ;)
Ciao
Alberto
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb??
Post by: medstd on May 11, 2010, 01:06:16 AM: Quote from: Alberto on May 10, 2010, 09:09:36 PM
Hello Thanin, it is not a Boophane at all. It is just a Crinum with disticous leaves. There are only a few species with such fan of leaves, but the one from Thailand is undetermined! ;)
Ciao
Alberto

Thank Alberto (http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/Smileys/classic/100.gif)

Why we didn't identify her?? (http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/Smileys/classic/c18.gif)
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: medstd on September 21, 2010, 03:26:31 PM: (http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/Smileys/classic/100.gif)
Update flowers
(http://www.magnoliathailand.com/webboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6394.0;attach=73505)

In wide forest, near lake
(http://www.magnoliathailand.com/webboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6394.0;attach=73506)

Little fragrance
(http://www.magnoliathailand.com/webboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6394.0;attach=73967)

Do you have any idea for her name???(http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/Smileys/classic/c18.gif)

Thank you
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: Alberto on September 21, 2010, 04:47:41 PM: WOW Thanin!
I sent the picture of my plant flowered two years ago to D. Lehmiller, but he also was not able to ID it. You should look at the herbaria of your zone and see!
Ciao
Alberto
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: medstd on September 21, 2010, 05:06:43 PM: Quote from: Alberto on September 21, 2010, 04:47:41 PM
WOW Thanin!
I sent the picture of my plant flowered two years ago to D. Lehmiller, but he also was not able to ID it. You should look at the herbaria of your zone and see!
Ciao
Alberto

Hi Alberto,

As me, in Thai , Few key man who interrest in amaryllidaceae.
And I don't know who.

I sent data to my herbaria, 4 mo. ago(other crinum) and never thing feedback from them.
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: Alberto on September 21, 2010, 05:32:53 PM: Thanin, I think you have to look by yourself in the herbaria, not to tell to anyone the fields data, and after that you could try to describe it as a new species! If you want I can help you!
Ciao
Alberto
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: annew on September 21, 2010, 07:15:47 PM: A very beautiful flower, Thanin!
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: Maggi Young on September 21, 2010, 07:47:54 PM: Well, obviously NONE of us have ever seen anything like this, Thanin.... it is surely the first of its kind. 8) How incredible, and wonderful for you.
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: Oron Peri on September 21, 2010, 09:16:28 PM: Similar in flower to C. amoenum and C. americanum but it is Crinum thaianum.
Amazingly this plant is used as an Aquarium plant.
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: Alberto on September 21, 2010, 09:35:45 PM: Oron, it is not C. thaianum at all. It is a new species, undescribed. It has the leaves in a fan and not in a rosette like almost all the other Crinums! Thaianum is a aquatic species living under water all year long, just the flowers emerge from water! This species dislikes to be in water, just the soil have to be moist but not bog, at least this is my experience. This species is deciduous and need a lot of warm also in winter, as all the crinums from India and Southern Asia!
Alberto
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: Oron Peri on September 21, 2010, 10:21:26 PM: You are right Alberto, i was to quick to say it.

Maybe it is the amphibian form as it was photographed near a lake, or maybe i just should stick to the Mediterranean. ;)
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: Oron Peri on September 21, 2010, 11:57:20 PM: This is a photo of C. thaianum from the site Flora of Thailand /Thai Forest Bulletin/office of the forest herbarium, where plants seems to be growing out of the water.. ???
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: medstd on September 22, 2010, 07:35:01 AM: Quote from: Alberto on September 21, 2010, 09:35:45 PM
Oron, it is not C. thaianum at all. It is a new species, undescribed. It has the leaves in a fan and not in a rosette like almost all the other Crinums! Thaianum is a aquatic species living under water all year long, just the flowers emerge from water! This species dislikes to be in water, just the soil have to be moist but not bog, at least this is my experience. This species is deciduous and need a lot of warm also in winter, as all the crinums from India and Southern Asia!
Alberto

I will try it,
Thank you.
Title: Re: Please ID my Bulb?? ---------Add flower photo
Post by: medstd on September 22, 2010, 07:38:02 AM: Quote from: Oron Peri on September 21, 2010, 11:57:20 PM
This is a photo of C. thaianum from the site Flora of Thailand /Thai Forest Bulletin/office of the forest herbarium, where plants seems to be growing out of the water.. ???
To confirm, they growth under water totally.
Photo by montela@thailandhoyaclub.com at this link http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/index.php?topic=1920.msg38073#msg38073

(http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1920.0;attach=23268)
(http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1920.0;attach=23270)
(http://www.thailandhoyaclub.com/webboard/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1920.0;attach=23290)