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Oron Peri

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Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« on: January 05, 2009, 12:23:08 PM »
Muscari inconstrictum is starting to bloom now, it has a wide distribution,at the edge of the Eastern Mediterranean. [Parts of Turkey, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Israel & Palestine]
Attached photos in my collection and in its natural habitat in this case in the Judea desert.
It is the second species to flower after M. parviflorum.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2009, 09:45:18 AM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 12:26:59 PM »
Not sure about my geography here Oran but in any case keep safe.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 12:42:11 PM »
Thank you David,
I will ....
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 12:43:02 PM »
Thanks Oron; what a beauty this is.  Is it common in Israel and under what conditions does it grow?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 12:58:39 PM »
Ashley,

This species is not very common in Israel, here it grows in semi desert climate, but mainly in crevices or north facing slopes and so it has humid surroundings.
 M. commutatum which is very similar is much more common and grows in vast areas and conditions.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 01:17:45 PM »
Thanks Oron.  Certainly another one I must look out for.  It's confusing when constricted florets are cited as diagnostic of Muscari because there are several clear exceptions, including this species.  Another taxonomic tangle.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 01:26:57 PM »
hi Oron

I know you are away from the troubles but I hope things are well with you.

A nice plant,I did not realise there would be interst in muscari so did not bother posting. Here is the first of mine in flower at the moment (frozen in its pot just now)
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2009, 01:31:08 PM »
That's very nice too Tony - and so early!  Mine are all well off flowering yet.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 01:36:45 PM »
Tony

is it a neglectum? i see its from Italy
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2009, 03:00:52 PM »
Oron I understand it may be a neglectum. Most of mine,I have a lot ,are no where near flowering and this one and the next picture semed to have popped up out of season. Certainly I would think that the one from Verion will be under deep snow until April in the wild. As you will know the splitters particularly in Turkey, have attacked muscari as well as narcissus,colchicum,crocus, etc and so I am hoping some of my common ones have suddenly become rare new species.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2009, 08:21:50 PM »
Since we have a thread for Muscari, perhaps someone can identify this one for me. My bulbs are of garden origin (and I don't know where they originally came from). The stem is reddish. Actually, while I had a dozen or so flowering in spring of 2007, just 1 small one came through this last spring so I hope I haven't lost it altogether by now.

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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2009, 08:38:22 PM »
Since there is an intrest for this genus I'm attaching a photo of the only autumn flowering species [Sep-Nov.]
just to put  order in the blooming times of the various species.
M. parviflorum is a well known species from all over the Mediterranean and many parts of Europe and north Africa.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2009, 09:14:05 PM »
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Since there is an intrest for this genus



Sorry, can't help myself... I've already fined myself a chocolate bar for the upcoming terrible pun.....


 Yes, Muscari can be rather neglectum,  I agree.....  :P :-[
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2009, 09:36:02 PM »
That's a two-bar violation Maggi....ooof!

Lesley, I've got something stuck in the back of my head on yours (no comments from the peanut gallery), I hope you get an answer soon...it's beautiful.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 12:14:32 AM »
Lesley
Muscari pseudomuscari?  Its the right colour (used to be M azureum) but I'm not sure about the constricted mouth to the bells.

 


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