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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2009, 12:44:07 AM »
And here are mine these are very common here but I have to wait a few months to see them again.
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 Liliaceae Muscari neglectum a.ky barajı
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2009, 04:15:39 AM »
Sorry Tony but not that. The colour is a soft, slightly lavender-shaded misty blue and as I said, the stems are dark red. Unfortunately I've only had 2 seeds from it in at least 7 years. With all due respect to M. pseudomuscari, which I like very much, this is a classier thing.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2009, 06:29:54 AM »
Lesley,

Is it 'Valerie Finnis'?  One of my very favourite Muscari.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 12:01:52 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2009, 09:25:00 AM »
Thank you, Ibrahim.
You send some color to us here in the north (- 10 C + snow cover fortunately).

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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2009, 08:11:26 PM »
Lesley,

Is it 'Valerie Finnis'?  One of my very favourite Muscari.

No.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2009, 10:51:07 PM »
Lesley,

Is it 'Valerie Finnis'?  One of my very favourite Muscari.

Paul

WHY?  It always flowers with terrible leaves.  Anything other than Valerie Finnis and we would think it was virused.   :o
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2009, 09:51:41 AM »
A few years ago I raised this little chap (with glaucous leaves) from a packet of mixed commercial seed. I do not know much about Muscari and would like to know its identity - it is easy to grow and multiplies well:
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2009, 10:09:20 AM »
Lesley

I have been having a look at my pictures and think yours my be Muscari aucheri which naturally is variable but looks pretty similar.

No luck with yours, Rogan,at the moment.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2009, 10:15:57 AM »
Arthur,

The leaves on mine I wouldn't think of as virused.... they are decidedly curled, but then so are a lot of plants of many genus (think Albuca spiralis etc), and a great blue-grey to them.  Those to me are a feature, not a detrimental aspect.  And I adore the colour of the flower, which is unlike any other Muscari I have found at this stage (not that I have a huge collection by any means).
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2009, 10:52:46 AM »
Arthur,

The leaves on mine I wouldn't think of as virused.... they are decidedly curled, but then so are a lot of plants of many genus (think Albuca spiralis etc), and a great blue-grey to them.  Those to me are a feature, not a detrimental aspect.  And I adore the colour of the flower, which is unlike any other Muscari I have found at this stage (not that I have a huge collection by any means).

Paul
I agree with you that curled leaves are not always virused,
Many species, mainly those that grow in the desert adapted this characteristic, probably in order to minimise exposure of leaf surface to the backing sun.
attached M. commutaum with curly leaf.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2009, 11:22:16 AM »
Oron,

I'll have to keep that one in mind if I ever see it.  Very, very cool leaves and great flowers.  I would love to collect more plants with curled or spiralled leaves, as the leaves last for so much longer than the flowers in general.
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2009, 12:15:09 PM »
Maybe we can ask Maggi to open a new thread entitled Curled and Spiralled leaves, so we can keep this one pure Muscari...?
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2009, 02:05:03 PM »
Maybe we can ask Maggi to open a new thread entitled Curled and Spiralled leaves, so we can keep this one pure Muscari...?

 I have done just that, Oron...
the new page is here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2906.new#new        8)
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2009, 02:36:04 PM »
Thanks Maggi
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Re: Muscari ... and some relatives 2009
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2009, 04:01:17 PM »
Hi:

     Virus infection produces curling of the foliage.

      But, it is not a neat, uniform curling of the blade as seen in the images by Orn, and , Boophones, Albuca circinata, Albuca spiralis, Ledebouria crispa, etc. etc.

      When virused one edge curls in one direction, the other edge in another and yet the leaf keel in just another so the whole impression is of deformity. This points to an advanced stage of infection. The earliest show as lighter parallel stripes mainly at the leaf tips and bases. Reddish stripes of this kind can be seen in virused Muscaris, Brodiaeas, Dichelostemmas, etc.   


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