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Rafa
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Re: Autumn flowering Narcissus 2012
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Reply #30 on:
October 07, 2012, 05:11:30 PM »
Orpheos, congratulations, is not easy to make bloom N. broussonetii.
Hans, terrific pictures. After our telephone conversation, definitively Balearic plants are not N. elegans, to me. Probably it is another species and the parents involved could be N. elegans and N. obsoletus. In my observations many times the hybrid replace the ecological role from one or both parents, and maybe N. elegans is the one who has disappeared.
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El Espinar, Segovia Spain
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October 07, 2012, 06:15:54 PM »
Very nice autumn Narcissus all friends !
Lucky men to be able to get them flowering
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Nicole, Sud Est France, altitude 110 m Zone 8
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October 08, 2012, 07:56:22 AM »
Wow Hans what a collection of super clumps.
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Pat Toolan,
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annew
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October 08, 2012, 08:37:14 AM »
Very impressed by these beautiful plants.
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Hans A.
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October 08, 2012, 10:21:52 AM »
Thanks a lot for all the kind comments!
As Rafa already mentioned the balearic N. elegans puzzled me as it is so diferent to the N. elegans I know.
I had received my plants a few years ago from Germany with the information they came originally from Mallorca. As I grow only a few samples I did not know if my observation (only one leave per bulb, different corona...) is typical for balearic plants or if perhaps I had received totally different plants. This species is a very local plant and I never have seen it in nature, but I had a few good hints where to look for it. So yesterday I jumped in the car to started a trip to the south of the island after I checked the plants in my garden again. Here some detail pictures of the plants I had received as N. elegans ex Mallorca:
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Hans - Balearic Islands/Spain
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Hans A.
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Narcissus elegans tour 2012
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October 08, 2012, 10:26:07 AM »
On the way I saw something white flowering - stopped the car and checked the plants - a few late N. obsoletus (most are over).
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Hans - Balearic Islands/Spain
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Hans A.
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Narcissus elegans tour 2012
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October 08, 2012, 10:38:10 AM »
Then after about 1 hour of driving I arrived at the area where N. elegans should grow - I started to search and after a while I found the first white flowering plant - N. obsoletus again? It was the balearic Narcissus elegans - first only single plants/clumps; but then a good number of them on a very reduced site - I searched in the surroundings but could not find no plants of this species. Here some pics:
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Hans - Balearic Islands/Spain
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October 08, 2012, 10:54:34 AM »
Hans, your narcissus in the garden are very impressive, but it is even more exciting to see them in the wild!
As promised in an earlier post is here Narcissus miniatus (obsoletus) ex Cadiz, now with a second flower and a pot full of Narcissus cavanillesii mauretanicus.
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Hans A.
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Narcissus elegans tour 2012
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October 08, 2012, 11:11:29 AM »
The plants I found are very similar - there are small differences in the corona to those I grow, every flowering plant had only one leave. I got the information mine were collected when a street was built. As in the visited habitat there was no newer road and because of the small differences of the coronana it seems they came from another population. Leonardo Llorenc mentioned this species growing at the border of small streets and ways in 1972 - as Mallorca has changed a lot in the last 40 Years possibly a lot of Habitats were lost. Is the name "N. elegans" correct for this plant? Seems it was called N. oxypetalus, N.elegans var. oxipetalus; fr. sordidicoronatus earlier...
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http://ibdigital.uib.es/greenstone/collect/bolletiHistoriaNaturalVolums/import/Bolleti_1972v017.pdf
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picture left N. elegans N. Africa / right "N. elegans" from Mallorca
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October 08, 2012, 01:44:05 PM »
Quote from: pehe on October 08, 2012, 10:54:34 AM
... and a pot full of Narcissus cavanillesii mauretanicus.
Wow! Superb!
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Hans - Balearic Islands/Spain
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October 10, 2012, 05:46:14 PM »
Extraordinary daffs were shown here!
After one week absence I was greeted here by
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Narcissus miniatus
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obsoletus
from Southern Spain
2. Same species from Crete - received from a generous forum member
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Narcissus x perezlarae
4.+5. An outstanding floriferous clone of
Narcissus cavanillesii
- received from Ian Robertson
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Narcissus cavanillesii
- ' normal ' - for comparison
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Gerd Knoche, Solingen
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Armin
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October 10, 2012, 07:05:50 PM »
Lovely wee beauties, Gerd.
You can account yourself lucky
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David Nicholson
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October 10, 2012, 08:33:09 PM »
Lovely selection Gerd.
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David Nicholson
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October 10, 2012, 08:42:11 PM »
Beautiful Gerd. The form from Cadiz is particularly lovely.
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Susan
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October 10, 2012, 09:30:26 PM »
They are all just beautiful.
Susan
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