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Hans A.

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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2012, 03:00:35 PM »
Thanks a lot Angelo, should give my plants a bit more of sun - the relationship flowers and leaves in your plants is much better! My grow in semishade and the flowers are hidden in between the leaves.
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2012, 08:46:36 PM »
Quote from: Hans A. on January 04, 2012, 09:45:49 PM
Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
Hans, the first one is UNGERNIA sp. really....
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2012, 09:22:13 PM »
Quote from: Oakwood on January 15, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: Hans A. on January 04, 2012, 09:45:49 PM
Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
Hans, the first one is UNGERNIA sp. really....
Dimitri - please can you set out the reasons for this identification?
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2012, 09:29:36 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on January 15, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: Oakwood on January 15, 2012, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: Hans A. on January 04, 2012, 09:45:49 PM
Anyone an idea which species this could be? I grow it as Sternbergia spec. ex Iran - beautiful tiny leaves, but no flower in several years. Total height of the plant is about 8 cm, second picture shows it together with leaves of Sternbergia angustifolia.
Hans, the first one is UNGERNIA sp. really....
Dimitri - please can you set out the reasons for this identification?
Gerry!
1) by simple morphology, as I growed some years Ungernia oligostroma; also I'm happyly growing Sternbergia species - colchiciflora, candida, fischeriana, lutea and I know these two genera differ by habit even when they just vegetate....
2) by non-flowering in culture - as I know it is very difficult to force this plants to bloom in culture because of their mostly desert nature growing, my Ungernia never bloomed at me in zone 5.....
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2012, 09:33:43 AM »
Dimitri - Thank you.
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2012, 09:41:04 AM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on January 16, 2012, 09:33:43 AM
Dimitri - Thank you.
not at all, Gerry!  ;D to specify we should check in list all Ungernia species growing in Iran but it could be difficult without flowering of plants..... I know only U. flava and U. trisphaera from Iran...
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2012, 04:31:45 PM »
Quote from: Oakwood on January 16, 2012, 09:41:04 AM
Quote from: Gerry Webster on January 16, 2012, 09:33:43 AM
Dimitri - Thank you.
not at all, Gerry!  ;D to specify we should check in list all Ungernia species growing in Iran but it could be difficult without flowering of plants..... I know only U. flava and U. trisphaera from Iran...

Ungernia species pics from one famous Russian plant site:

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/6292.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/12700.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/63893.html
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/3476.html
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2012, 08:38:41 PM »
Dimitri - unfortunately your links do not seem to work. With 'Firefox' I get the message " Bad Gateway".
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2012, 08:45:37 PM »
The links to photos of Ungernia species flowers open well for me using Firefox.
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2012, 08:48:14 PM »
I get "Bad Gateway" too with IE ???
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2012, 09:49:22 PM »
Photos opening no problem with IE.
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2012, 09:57:41 PM »
Just tried again and they opened fine ??? ???
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2012, 10:39:27 PM »
Quote from: David Nicholson on January 16, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
Just tried again and they opened fine ??? ???
Same here. Very odd.
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2012, 10:43:40 PM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on January 16, 2012, 10:39:27 PM
Quote from: David Nicholson on January 16, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
Just tried again and they opened fine ??? ???
Same here. Very odd.

 Might it simply be the site was busy?
This internet thing is full of mysteries  :-\
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Re: Sternbergia 2012
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2012, 03:34:28 PM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on January 16, 2012, 08:38:41 PM
Dimitri - unfortunately your links do not seem to work. With 'Firefox' I get the message " Bad Gateway".

I don't know, Gerry, possibly your net provider makes some filters for Russian sites)))))))  But Ungernia pics from there are extremely beautyfull as for me - very interesting plants from Amaryllidaceae.
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