Fritillaria 2010

[WimB]

Two flowering here today:

Fritillaria raddeana
Fritillaria stenanthera

[Regelian]

Nice, Wim,

my Fr. raddeana opened its first flowers yesterday.  I have collected pollen to attempt a cross with Fr. imperialis.  I assume this has been done, but don't know what results came of it.

[LucS]

Jamie,
Your F. raddeana looks to be white while the plant of Wim is pale yellow.
Has the colour something to see with the age of the flowers ?

[WimB]

Jamie, nice plant.
I think that cross has been tried indeed and if I remember correctly they are not compatible (I think I read this somewhere but I don't remember where). But I'm sure someone with more knowledge about this subject will answer here soon. Ian???

Luc, I think it's just the natural variation of the flower, some are paler then others.

[Regelian]

Luc,

as Wim mentioned, it seems to be the natural variation.  Mine opened this pale straw colour and has stayed this way for 3 days.  I've seen a foto of a clone with almost rust coloured flowers.

[Mark Griffiths]

lovely, how tall are the F. raddeana?

[Regelian]

Mark,

mine is about 60cm.  Less than half so high as an imperialis.  I don't know how much they vary.

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks for that. as I say very nice

[Maggi Young]

my Fr. raddeana opened its first flowers yesterday.  I have collected pollen to attempt a cross with Fr. imperialis.  I assume this has been done, but don't know what results came of it.

Crossing Ff. raddeana and imperialis gives a plant which looks close to F. eduardii.... which may itself be of hybrid origin.

In our garden a good mature raddeana can be around 80 to 90 cms  tall.
Flower colour can vary .

[Mark Griffiths]

I may have a seedling of F. eduardii, I am sure I got a packet from the Frit group but the "permanent label marker" I used wasn't.. so I'm not sure. The seedling is up and is a couple of years old now..do the seedlings of the Imperielis group look different in the early stages so i might be able to confirm?

[Maggi Young]

Mmmm, not sure, Mark ....will see what we might have growing at the moment to get pix of tomorrow.

[Sinchets]

Mark, my imperialis and raddeana seedlings all look very similar.

[Maggi Young]

The seedlings of imperialis, raddeana and eduardii all look very similar to eachother. These seedlings have got rather broader seedling leaves than other frits, but no discernible difference between the group.

[Sinchets]

Size-wise this is not quite in the same league as the species above. This Fritillaria pinardii is about 5cm tall and for me the first species flowering in the open garden.

[Mark Griffiths]

thanks, right now being able to identify it as being the imperialis group is enough. When (if) it flowers it will be a lovely surprise.