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Janis Ruksans

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #270 on: March 13, 2010, 06:30:02 AM »
Re Crocus chrysanthus: The wild populations we have seen here had stigmas, which were red or orange (the orange being the same colour as the rest of the flower). Is it possible that 'Milea' is just a selection from a wild population with the same variation? The bought Crocus chrysanthus I brought with me to Bulgaria flowered in the same week- which is also the same week as our nearest local wild populations of C.chrysanthus flowered. Populations further south in Bulgaria have just about finished flowering.
Thanks Tony G- for your help with my Crocus id. Has anyone else grown C.biflorus pulchricolor from Janis? I am wondering if this is what I have. I bought this the season before our vole attack and as such never saw it flower. If this is the id, then it must have regenerated from scraps left in a vole run under its current position. Attached pic shows the closed flowers.

It looks as pulchricolor, alternative - taurii but unusually dark. Must be checked corm tunics.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #271 on: March 13, 2010, 08:07:04 AM »
Thanks, Janis. Have you offered a pulchricolor this dark before?
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« Reply #272 on: March 13, 2010, 12:56:53 PM »
Thanks, Janis. Have you offered a pulchricolor this dark before?

I think, yes. At least just such now blooms under my commercial stock number (BM-8514) in greenhouse.
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« Reply #273 on: March 13, 2010, 01:03:35 PM »
Thanks, Janis.
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« Reply #274 on: March 13, 2010, 08:29:45 PM »
Hi Michael, Yes I've certainly heard of Sam McGredy and my mother used to grow a number of his roses. I'm not much of a rose grower myself. So far as I know he's still around but I can probably find out some more for you. Give me a day or two and I'll contact you privately.
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« Reply #275 on: March 13, 2010, 08:34:57 PM »
Michael, a quick Google sauggests SM is still alive and very active in the Rose World.
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« Reply #276 on: March 13, 2010, 09:28:55 PM »
The attached photo is of a crocus i got last fall as C. scepusinensis leucostigma,  i find nothing on this crocus can someone confirm and provide some culture information
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Easy in the garden being a form of Crocus vernus.  C scepusiensis is a synonym for C vernus vernus.  'leucostigma' = white stigma  (whitish anyway!)  Tolerant of summer damp and not needing / liking excessive heat / drought in summer.

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« Reply #277 on: March 14, 2010, 06:12:14 AM »
Thanks Tony, i got them in 2007 but they got starved and this is their first year to bloom, so much for specialist nurserys...

The attached photo is of a crocus i got last fall as C. scepusinensis leucostigma,  i find nothing on this crocus can someone confirm and provide some culture information

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Rimmer

The plant is correct. You can see the almost white stigma. Color of stigma can vary a little from pure white to slightly creamy as they are propogated from seed. The name var. leucostigma was applied by G. Maw in his Monograph and I followed him in naming this form, although in my book I'm seperating Crocus heuffelianus from Crocus vernus with two subspecies - subsp. heuffelianus and subsp. scepusiensis. Typical stigma color for Crocus vernus sensu lato complex is yellow.
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« Reply #278 on: March 16, 2010, 04:38:56 PM »
This is a picture of what I am growing as Crocus biflorus aff astrospermus from Belpinar Gec. The same plant was posted last year. I was waiting for a chance to take a clear(ish) picture as it looks noticeably different from another plant posted here (by Dirk?). Any ideas?
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« Reply #279 on: March 16, 2010, 05:13:35 PM »
Can someone ID this one please, grown from seed  as cartwrightianus which obviously it isn't.

Corsicus maybe ?

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« Reply #280 on: March 16, 2010, 05:58:57 PM »
Michael, I think you are right.  Crocus corsicus is the most likely from the look of your plant although the outers are more yellow than I hav eseen on C corsicus.  However it is certainly within described variation.  Also the name begins c.r  and ends ...us, perhaps the donor had a dyslexic moment!

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« Reply #281 on: March 16, 2010, 06:09:15 PM »
Thanks Tony,will label it as Corsicus

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« Reply #282 on: March 17, 2010, 12:29:35 PM »
I have found a large clump of this crocus with a faded label Crocus olivieri ssp olivieri .
I was wonder if anyone can confirm the name.
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« Reply #283 on: March 17, 2010, 12:53:00 PM »
I have found a large clump of this crocus with a faded label Crocus olivieri ssp olivieri .
I was wonder if anyone can confirm the name.
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Yes, it is.
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« Reply #284 on: March 17, 2010, 01:20:16 PM »
Thanks Janis, There might be a bit of a hole in mum's garden now  ;)
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