Crocus October 2009

[mark smyth]

Over the last few weeks I have been updating the Crocus pages of my web site. If you see any mistakes feel free to tell me.
http://www.marksgardenplants.com/crocus.htm

[Alex]

Crocus mathewi (the other pot but same clone) and C. goulimyi

[johnw]

Over the last few weeks I have been updating the Crocus pages of my web site. If you see any mistakes feel free to tell me.
http://www.marksgardenplants.com/crocus.htm

Brilliant job Mark.

I love those tommies. Too bad they are so scarce here. We just got Roseus from Holland and hope it is true, the rest I have never seen offered aside from Whitewell Purple.   We got the latter last year as Roseus from BC, I wonder if it's correct.

johnw

[Gerry Webster]

Nice all these pics. Thanks at the authors. Here a Crocus I suppose serotinus ssp salzmannii from seeds mixed with Merendera pyrenaica that I received of a friend. It blooms for the first time. First time too for this seedling (3 years) of Crocus boryi. Is it boryi true or boryi x tournefortii ?

If your Crocus boryi has tournefortii genes it will probably stay open at night.
I have plants labelled C boryi x tournefortii which appear identical to C boryi .... and they close up in dull weather!  It can be very difficult to tell where natural variation ends and hybrid influence begins.

I agree with Tony  that probably the only reliable way to tell is the behaviour of the plants at night. I have probable hybrids that look like C.boryi & others that look quite close to C. tournefortii. I also have the impression that quite a lot of current trade forms of C. tournefortii are probably hybrids.

[mark smyth]

John if you are getting bulbs next year I'll send you some tommies

[johnw]

John if you are getting bulbs next year I'll send you some tommies

Mark - Here is a close up of our "Whitewell Purple", it may not be typical as it was forced and the light was low.

The tommies and sieberis do very well here. We planted 24 sieberi 'Violent Queens' about 8 years ago and dug over 500+ this summer.

johnw

[mark smyth]

That looks right by what I have. Thomas H will say yes or no.

[johnw]

John if you are getting bulbs next year

Is there such a thing as not getting bulbs next year?   

johnw

[mark smyth]

You never know.

Are you coming this way again next year?

[Gerry Webster]

Over the last few weeks I have been updating the Crocus pages of my web site. If you see any mistakes feel free to tell me.
http://www.marksgardenplants.com/crocus.htm

Very nice Mark.

However, there is no such plant as "C. hadriaticus chrysanthus". I suspect this is a misreading of "chrysobelonicus" which is no longer an accepted name.

Also - C. goulimyi 'Mani White' doesn't look right. As I know it, the open flower has a very characteristic triangular shape when viewed from above.

[johnw]

You never know.

Are you coming this way again next year?

We have to go to Germany in May (bad timing work-wise) so unless there's a miracle we'll miss the UK this time round.

johnw

[Janis Ruksans]

And the last - pulchellus hybrid ZEPHYR ( I can't to distuingish it from Leonid's speciosus LATE LOVE.)
Janis

Janis, the photo on Leonids website shows clearly a plant with yellow pollen - not white as in Zephyr.
The throat in 'Late Love' looks white, not yellow.

My LATE LOVE I got dirrectly from Leonid, so possibly some mix is in stock (or label misplaced).
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Boyed your 'Late Love' has yellow pollen -adding - I see you have Leonids photo. Mine have white so I will relabel mine as pulchellus. My new policy is to write the name of the supplier on my labels but for some reason I didnt write it on my ?'Late Love'. Is Leonid the only supplier?

LATE LOVE is breed by Leonid and he is single one who supplies it.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Great shots from all.
Here a cross from hadriaticus x sativus 'Cashmerianus'.
The F1 hybrid with yellow anthers and set good seed.
First flower from F2 in this autumn with white anthers  .

Dirk, Excellent! Especially F-2.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Gerry,
Will without doubt post pictures when they flower, all the exxcitement of growing from seed!
Again your thomasii is a super specimen, and, once again we have this species as 1 year old corms from seed purchased from Monocot ( coll. Italy not Croatia? )  in 2005 sowed in 2007 and germinated autumn 2008! Flowering 2011,2012??

My earliest blooming of Crocus (spring) was 17 monthes after sawing of seeds (cross between abantensis and ancyrensis).
Janis