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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #210 on: February 21, 2009, 09:07:00 PM »
A teaser - can you name the parentage of this Crocus.  Sadly not one of mine  :(
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #211 on: February 21, 2009, 09:19:02 PM »
I have 2 clones of Crocus abantensis but they are not so similar as expected; what do you think about them ?

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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #212 on: February 21, 2009, 09:31:48 PM »
Fred

both very nice, marginal preference for Clone 1
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #213 on: February 21, 2009, 09:34:52 PM »
I would like to know if you think both are C. abantensis
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #214 on: February 21, 2009, 09:47:56 PM »
Fred - Clone 1 looks like C abantensis.  Clone 2 looks like C biflorus pulchricolor.

Art - cvijicii x veluchensis although it might even be cvijicii x sieberi sublimis.  Very elegant shape.

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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #215 on: February 21, 2009, 11:22:57 PM »
Here is the first installment of the crocus rush!
As Anne W showed us a nice Crocus sieberi with dark tipped petals recently, I'll start with some Crocus sieberi forms

Four pots of Crocus sieberi ssp sieberi including a dark tipped form, all seed raised.
Crocus sieberi ssp sublimis Tricolor - from wild seed, not the trade clone.  A bit smaller and rounder.
Crocus sieberi ssp sublimis - fantastic big slightly bicoloured flowers
Crocus sieberi ssp atticus - slight variation
Crocus rujanensis - considered by some to be a form of Crocus sieberi but subtly different in my limited experience of it.

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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #216 on: February 21, 2009, 11:28:33 PM »
Art - cvijicii x veluchensis although it might even be cvijicii x sieberi sublimis.  Very elegant shape.

Yes cvijicii is one parent
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #217 on: February 21, 2009, 11:35:49 PM »
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Spectacular Crocus

Seeing sieberi tricolor alongside sieberi sieberi, it is difficult to see why tricolor has gained such popularity.  Sieberi sieberi is elegant by comparison and the colour combination is, in my view, a much pleasing one.

Look forward to the next instalment
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #218 on: February 22, 2009, 08:47:30 AM »
Art - cvijicii x veluchensis although it might even be cvijicii x sieberi sublimis.  Very elegant shape.

Yes cvijicii is one parent
x pelistericus then?

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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #219 on: February 22, 2009, 10:08:26 AM »
Tony what a great selection of sieberi. The first of the seed I had from you in Dec 2005 is showing for flowers and the rest look like they should flower next year so ONE DAY maybe  8)
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #220 on: February 22, 2009, 11:37:03 AM »
Tony,
these sieberi forma are out of this world !!  :o
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #221 on: February 22, 2009, 11:53:27 AM »
Art - cvijicii x veluchensis although it might even be cvijicii x sieberi sublimis.  Very elegant shape.

Yes cvijicii is one parent
x pelistericus then?

Apparently is is sieberi 'Bowles White'   ???
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #222 on: February 22, 2009, 11:54:17 AM »
Tony G,

what a great pleasure to see your crocus bed.  Spring is the best season of the year ;D

Your C. sieberi ssp sieberi is stunning! :o  But also this very beautiful C. sieberi ssp sublimis Tricolor - from wild seed - delights me.
It has a much larger yellow center with comparatively wider white ring and with fine feathering compared to the commercial clone I have.

C. rujanensis is also one I'm interested. Do you have a picture who shows the center?

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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #223 on: February 22, 2009, 12:15:23 PM »
Some Crocus from the bulb house

Crocus sieberi 'Midas Touch'
Crocus sieberi 'Midas Touch'
Crocus reticulatus 'Janis Ruksans'
Crocus korolkowii
Crocus korolkowii
Crocus malyi - thanks Dirk
Crocus vernus 'Fantasia' - thanks Dirk
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Re: Crocus February - 2009
« Reply #224 on: February 22, 2009, 12:29:36 PM »
I have 2 clones of Crocus abantensis but they are not so similar as expected; what do you think about them ?

Fred your second form also can be right C. abantensis. Around lake Abant there is always pale forms like first one but on the top of the mount Abant, rare but it is posible to see dark form like yours. First you should be sure that the both have reticulatus corms! Here is my dark form from wild.


 


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