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angie
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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Reply #15 on:
December 13, 2009, 08:48:10 PM »
Thanks Maggi, was a bit worried she was ill or something, nice to know she is ok, will look forward to her posts soon.
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Ray
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 14, 2009, 09:21:49 AM »
Hi Hans & Alberto,thanks for the links.
Hi Paul,this plant appeared in a patch of H littoralis and it would appear that i now have a Hymenocallis without a name.My Elisena also should flower in the next week.bye Ray
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Ray Evans
Colac
Victoria Australia
Ray
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 22, 2009, 11:26:41 AM »
Maybe this one is the real thing.bye Ray
Elisena longipetala
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Ray Evans
Colac
Victoria Australia
Alberto
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 22, 2009, 12:47:56 PM »
Ray, your
E. longipetala
looks a bit strange, in the shape of the staminal cup and in the direction of the filaments. Where does it come?
Alberto
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where summers are hot and dry and winters are cold and wet
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Paul T
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 23, 2009, 04:42:52 AM »
Ray,
Very, very different to mine of that species. As Alberto says, the cup is all wrong (if you look at the pics of mine you can see it is an almost flattened tube) with the stamens poking directly out the end, rather than outwards in a ray pattern like yours. Yours look more like one of the other species with the flattened cup (name escapes me right now), except yours is a jagged cup whereas the one I am thinking of has a clean disk. I must say I rather like yours. Is that one multiplying for you? I ask because my Elisena in all the years I have had it has never offset or looked like it was even thinking about it. I don't know whether this is usual or not (can anyone tell me whether non-multiplying clones are common)?
Mine should be open within the next day or so, it was looking very full this morning and it is a hot day today so might bring it out sometime today even. Of course now that I am watching for it to open it will take ages to do so.
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Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.
Ray
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 23, 2009, 07:57:11 AM »
Hi Alberto,this Elisena came from a nursery here in AU,and they have been selling
this plant by that name for maybe 20 years or more,and if it is not E longipetala then a lot of Aussies have a wrongly named plant.
Hi Paul looking forward to your pic of this plant,I got mine from BT where did you get yours. It has multiplied but very slowly.Just had another look at your pics from this time last year and I don't see any difference in the cup but the filaments look different,see if I can get some better pics tomorrow.bye Ray
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Paul T
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 24, 2009, 12:54:45 AM »
Ray,
Could you take a side on pic of that last one you posted? That will clearly show the profile of the cup. It looks quite flattened in the pic to me, but might not be so in real life. Mine is in the process of opening it's first flower this morning (the heat DID bring it out quicker). I'll take front and profile pics for comparison.
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Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.
Ray
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 24, 2009, 02:06:32 AM »
Hi Paul,here is a few more pics,do you remember were you got yours?bye Ray
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Ray Evans
Colac
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Paul T
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 24, 2009, 05:44:36 AM »
Ray,
Is that really the same one you posted on the 22nd? It looks totally different in shape. The pics you just posted look very similar to mine, with the flattened cup etc. The pic of the 22nd looked more like a flattened, ragged cup, which was why I was wondering if it was correct.
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Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.
Ray
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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December 26, 2009, 10:48:17 AM »
Hi Paul,Have 3 flowering spikes of this plant and went and looked at every one today and could see no difference between any of them.bye Ray
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Ray Evans
Colac
Victoria Australia
anita
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December 26, 2009, 08:33:26 PM »
Paul, Ray,
I too have had Elisena longipetala in flower this year for the first time(over about a fortnight ago) from bulbs purchased from BT and mine certainly had the slightly flattened cup shape as in Paul's pics and in the later pics from Ray. I unfortunately did not photograph mine as the flowers were slightly snail chewed however I did notice that the flattened shape was quite different from the flowers that are produced on Hymenocallis festalis, harrisiana etc. Cheers Anita
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Paul T
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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January 06, 2011, 01:42:14 AM »
In flower again for me.......
And as always, a single stem of flowers from a single fan of leaves, never multiplying, never changing.
At least it flowers every year.
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Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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January 06, 2011, 02:34:18 AM »
Wow, what a plant!
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Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA (near the New Hampshire border)
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Paul T
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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January 06, 2011, 05:59:39 AM »
McMark,
Very reminiscent of Hymenocallis, but more "tendrilly" (if there is such a word
) and with a flattened trumpet. I had expected it to multiply, but not an offset in the 6 or 8 years I must have had it by now!? I'd definitely like more of it, but don't really want to cut it up to try to produce offsets when I only have one. I guess I should go and buy another one at some point and butcher it to produce little ones.
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Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.
Rogan
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Re: Elisena longipetala
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January 08, 2011, 11:47:24 AM »
I wonder what (other than humans) is attracted to curly tepals?
Beautiful plant though Paul!
I have an
Ismene festalis
in my collection that has produced an offset after one or two years; flowers well too - perhaps your Elisaena will, if you talk to it nicely
Hot and sunny here today - so nice! ...and the Tigridias are flowering too
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Warm temperate climate - zone 10-ish
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