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Tony Willis

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Re: Arum
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2008, 08:31:15 PM »
Not one I would grow in a pot,it seems to do much better in the garden. It is a big hearty plant and needs a lot of root room.I would expect about four years from sowing to flowering.Here are a couple of pictures of it growing under a dwarf cherry to give an idea of its size
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Re: Arum
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2008, 09:31:50 PM »
OK, I'll bight the bullet and plant some into the ground somewhere.  I do hope it doesn't become a menace!!  ::)  Would like some flowers from it one of these years though, so if it does then it was probably worth it!!  ;D

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Anthony,

Don't be greedy..... mine was bought as an adult plant and after 10 years it still hasn't flowered..... wanting flowers 4 years after sowing SEED is just plain greediness!!  ;) ;D
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Re: Arum
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2008, 09:36:43 PM »
Paul, in your climate I would certainly plant them out. I would be VERY surprised if they spread much at all. If you are lucky they will make a very stately clump and lookk very smart, just as Tony's do in England......I don't think they'll manage that well outside in Scotland!
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Re: Arum
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2008, 09:59:34 PM »
Maggie

I do not think Dunblane is any colder than here and  this species is a mountain plant in Crete where it  gets covered in snow.I think it needs rich moist ground in the spring to flower.
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Re: Arum
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2008, 02:27:07 AM »
Tony,

Eeeeek!  :o  You mean I'm going to have to give it a GOOD area as well?  Rich and moist in this garden are prime positions, as they have to be worked at quite hard!!  ;D  I'll see what I can do.  I'm assuming full sun as well?
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Re: Arum
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2008, 10:54:41 AM »
Here in Aberdeen, and in Dunblane, (which as Anthony Darby always tells us, is actually Atlantis renamed ;) ;) ) the prblem is not the cold, as Ian's Bulb Log photos of Arum creticum utterly collapsed with frost then happily recovered and flowering well..... problem is that of summer wet...... Cretan mountain tops have less rain and rather better drainage than we can manage in Scotland, Tony!! ::) :o
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Re: Arum
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2008, 11:33:29 AM »
Maggie

I do not want to get into the 'I have more than you' discussion because I cannot find the statistics without paying for them.So I will only say I have not watered the garden in the last five years.Last summer I only was able to mow the lawn four times and I have candelabra primulas self seeding in it and my fish often leave the pond to have a swim around the garden. That is wet. We have our own little micro climate,its chief feature is it rains most days of the year. It is a totally depressing place to live although there are probably worse.

I am stuck in the house writing this because it is raining,will just have to do some repotting.
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2008, 11:44:53 AM »
Tony,

Oh My Goodness..... the thought of not having to water your garden is just SUCH a luxury.  Not having to spend all that time watering every couple of days would be so wonderful.  I am JEALOUS as anything. (to put it mildly).  ::)
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Re: Arum
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2008, 11:49:34 AM »
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Last summer I only was able to mow the lawn four times and I have candelabra primulas self seeding in it and my fish often leave the pond to have a swim around the garden. That is wet. We have our own little micro climate,its chief feature is it rains most days of the year. It is a totally depressing place to live although there are probably worse.

I am stuck in the house writing this because it is raining,will just have to do some repotting.

Crikey, Tony, now I know why you travel so much!  ::)

I suppose the position of the arum by the dwarf cherry must give it some assistance in using up all that extra water....a pointer perhaps to a successful planting spot for others wishing to try it outside.

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Re: Arum
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2008, 12:49:53 PM »
Tony, waterlilies rot in Dunblane because it's too wet. ::) I will try some outside as I'm redoing a west facing bed.
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Re: Arum
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2008, 03:30:02 PM »
The first of my arums is now in flower.It is one of the Turkish 'flag' ones and stands about 2 feet tall

arum rupicola, turkey
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2008, 12:40:18 PM »
Tony,

Not sure I've seen A. rupicola before, although the name rings bells (is it a subspecies of something else?  ???).  Interesting flower, with a very prominent spadix.  Nice!
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Re: Arum
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2008, 05:21:23 PM »
Paul

rupicola is a true species formerly conophalloides which is widespread across Turkey and Iran.

here is the next one which is euxinum which is rare in cultivation but very easy to grow
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Re: Arum
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2008, 09:36:56 PM »
That is a beautiful spathe Tony.
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Re: Arum
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2008, 09:49:29 PM »
Lesley they are one of my passions,so intricate in their form,plenty more to come
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