Fritillaria-2008

[Gerry Webster]

Why did I think (assume?) F. epirotica is yellow or yellowish green?

Lesley - maybe you saw the Frit Group Newsletter no.6. On p17 there is a photo (by Ruby Baker) of a yellowish F.epirotica growing in the Katara Pass, Greece. Very nice it is too.

[olegKon]

Lesley - you may have confused it with Fr. euboeica which is yellow and green. Alphabetically they are next door neighbours

[Gerry Webster]

A picture of frit kotschyanus i got from Dieter Zschummel.The seed came from Kiev Botanic garden.

Tony - the colour of your frit suggests F.grandiflora. Some people think that grandiflora & kotschyana are the same thing or that grandiflora is a subsp. of kotschyana (Martyn Rix) but the Kew monocot list keeps them as distinct species. The taxonomically significant differences seem quite small. 

[Gerdk]

Here are 2 frits - quite different versions of the genus

Fritillaria verticillata and Fritillaria tubiformis ssp. moggridgei

Gerd

[Gerry Webster]

Gerd- your F. tubiformis  ssp. moggridgei is superb. Are they growing outside? It looks like it.

[Lesley Cox]

Lesley - you may have confused it with Fr. euboeica which is yellow and green. Alphabetically they are next door neighbours

I shouldn't be surprised Oleg. I seem to get confused about a lot of things lately. Second childhood will be welcome as, hopefully, I can begin to learn - and remember - all over again.

[Lesley Cox]

Wonderful frits Gerd. Does this form vary or perhaps hybridize with the regular plummy form? I've grown a couple of batches from AGS seed and both times the flowering plants turned out a sort of orangey colour with light red chequering, neither yellow nor plum. Lovely but not what I was wanting.

[Boyed]

Gerd,
Wonderful pictures!!! Fr. verticillata appeals me a lot with its elegant look. How tall does it grow?

I have now my fritillaria meleagris forms blooming in pots.

[Gerdk]

Gerry,
Yes, these plant are outside  for more than 10 years - see pic!

Lesley,
No variation here, also not at the site in the Alpes Maritime, where
I saw them in the wild. All my plants came from wild collected seeds - no chance for hybridisation.

Boyed,
Frit. verticillata is up to 80 cm high - see pic!

Gerd

[Susan Band]

Does anyone know what this is? It is chinese, 15 cm tall and the flowers are huge in relation to plant, 5cm.

[olegKon]

Susan - Can't help with identification. Just - my congratulations! You8 have a real treasure whatever the name.
Lesley - We are all enjoying your wit.Always.
Gerd - Thanks for fantastic pics you've posted

[Gerry Webster]

Susan - your frit may be F.crassicaulis, though I wouldn't put money on it - unfortunately your photos don't show enough of the right details to be sure. If you have the patience, you can access the the Fritillaria section of the 'Flora of China' on the web (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=113029). There is a key, descriptions of taxa & some illustrations - line drawings.

[Susan Band]

Thanks Gerry,
I think you are right, I remember now that someone suggested that last year.
The problem with bulb keys is that they always start with the bulb description and end with the seed capsule description. Not very helpful when you are trying to find the name of a flowering plant 
Susan

[Tony Willis]

Gerd your frits are wonderful.

Gerry you may be right about my kotchyanus.I have seen grandiflora and it looks just the same.I understand the seed came from Kiev botanic garden so you would hope it would be correct.Maybe they are just the same thing

[Lesley Cox]

Whatever your yellow is Susan, it's a real honey.

Here's a pic of my grandiflora, from 6 months ago. I only have kotschyanus as FGAGS seedlings.



This came (indirectly) from Martyn Rix. The stem elongated to about 15cms but the flower was huge, about 5 cm in height, almost 4 across.