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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2014, 10:40:23 AM »
A nice form of pallasii pallasii from Turkey
C. laevigatus
C. palaestinus ssp hermoneus from Jordan
Tivon, in the lower Galilee, north Israel.
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2014, 11:13:17 AM »
Kris , i guess photo is taken in its habitat?

Yes that's right Oron . It was taken in South Turkey last week of november .
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 11:14:47 AM »
Finally some color today, Crocus cartwrightianus with different color forms

C. cartwrightianus was always one of my favorites ! Great to see them in the ideal situation...
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2014, 01:45:31 PM »
Crocus wattiorum .

Oh yes- quite the crevice plant!    We have a Crocus (pulchellus) hybrid that has seeded itself in the very small gap
( 0.5cm) between two paving slabs on the terrace in our garden. I feel so sorry for the poor thing in such a tight spot!
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2014, 06:42:31 AM »
I always thought that it would be extremely difficult to collect C.wattiorum in wild. Fortunately I got two different gatherings maid by other travellers, so my plants are genetically different and I'm getting seeds. It is good grower here in pots regardless of low altitudes and mild climate at its homeland.
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 03:49:18 PM »
Here is my C. wattiorum. It is replaced just outside of my siting room which looks east. It takes only 4 hour sun in the morning between 08-12. It is increased up very good only from a singl corm. It sets also perfectly seeds. The only problem is the frost. It is very sensitive, in few minus degree they can all die! So in snowy time just I take it to inside.

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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 04:50:02 PM »
Several crocus species suffered from frost with me, but never C. wattiorum. My crocus pots almost every winter are frozen hard. I'm covering pots in greenhouses only when temperature inside drops below minus 10 C. So C. wattiorum is exposed to frost with me.
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2014, 04:51:23 PM »
Wonderful wattiorum Ibrahim !
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2014, 05:14:46 PM »
Here is my C. wattiorum. It is replaced just outside of my siting room which looks east. It takes only 4 hour sun in the morning between 08-12. It is increased up very good only from a singl corm. It sets also perfectly seeds. The only problem is the frost. It is very sensitive, in few minus degree they can all die! So in snowy time just I take it to inside.
ibrahim
::) Wow , looks very good Ibrahim. The way I like them , very short stems .
Thanks for sharing this information. This is very useful.
I was surprised to see them growing in that much shade in Turkey . Maybe I could post some more pictures of the wild if this is interesting ...
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2014, 05:16:11 PM »
Several crocus species suffered from frost with me, but never C. wattiorum. My crocus pots almost every winter are frozen hard. I'm covering pots in greenhouses only when temperature inside drops below minus 10 C. So C. wattiorum is exposed to frost with me.

Thanks Janis , very interesting information.
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2014, 05:22:49 PM »
I always thought that it would be extremely difficult to collect C.wattiorum in wild. Fortunately I got two different gatherings maid by other travellers, so my plants are genetically different and I'm getting seeds. It is good grower here in pots regardless of low altitudes and mild climate at its homeland.

Hello Janis , I bouhgt a corm from you 3 or 4 years ago. First two years it was flowering but now the corms getting smaller and always divide themselves . I think I don't grow them the right way ? As I see them growing in the wild now , I think they are to warm here in summer ? (I grow them in my hot greenhouse )Turkey offcourse is also warm but they grow in so much shade overthere ? Another thing , I see them growing in a very peaty soil or in crevices. A friend of mine added some bark to the substrate.
Maybe I can make myself more clear with more pictures from the wild.     
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2014, 05:31:30 PM »
::) Wow , looks very good Ibrahim. The way I like them , very short stems .
Thanks for sharing this information. This is very useful.
I was surprised to see them growing in that much shade in Turkey . Maybe I could post some more pictures of the wild if this is interesting ...
  Oh, yes, please!!
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2014, 11:41:41 PM »
Kris,
It is always very interesting to see plants from wild.
I don’t have any special advice to your C. wattiorum. Each garden has its own conditions. I think,  they don’t like too much watering in winter. If you try from seeds, maybe some seedlings will like your growing way.
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2014, 05:47:43 PM »
Kris,
It is always very interesting to see plants from wild.
I don’t have any special advice to your C. wattiorum. Each garden has its own conditions. I think,  they don’t like too much watering in winter. If you try from seeds, maybe some seedlings will like your growing way.

Ibrahim & Maggi ,
I try to post more pictures of wattiorum from my last trip in Turkey .
Ibrahim ,
Yes I agree , I have a much greater chance to succeed if I can grow them from seed . I had never the opportunity to get some seeds but if I get this chance sooner or later I sure try to grow them from seed. In the meanwhile I enjoy the ones I try to grow from Janis. You're right I think they don't like to much water in combination with lower temperatures . It is always a  challenge to grow them well but it is welworth to go for it....
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Re: Crocus December
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 02:58:00 AM »
It seems rather foreign to me for anything to be blooming in December, even if they are in pots.  Seems crocus would bloom earlier fall or in spring.   I have not tried to grow any in pots, only in the ground and mostly fall blooming species.
I generally only try to grow plants that don't want to grow here.

 


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