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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2014, 03:13:12 PM »
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2014, 10:08:37 AM »
Anybody grow Allium hypsistum or A. przewalskianum just curious as they are using in Nepali cooking.
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2014, 10:52:46 AM »
 A digression prompted bu Alan's query......
Mark McD. grows  A. przewalskianum  - and in one post he mentions that on FOC two pix supposed to be of A. forestii are in fact of A. przewalskianum -
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The Flora of China entry on A. forrestii has added 5 photo links as part of the "Photos by The Biodiversity of the Hengduan Mountains Project".  There are contributions by two photographers, Susan Kelley and David Boufford.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027479

Please Note: 2 of the 5 FOC photos of A. forrestii are incorrectly identified!  Photos 2 & 3 by David Boufford look correct, and closely resemble your plant... it shows a distinctly red color flower.  Photos 1 & 4 by Susan Kelley are incorrect, they show an Allium species with pinched flowers and long exserted stamens (stamens are not exserted in A. forrestii), and based on exserted stamens that reflex outwards, it is most likely A. przewalskianum, or even a depauperate form of A. carolinianum that also shows such stamen characteristics.  Photo 5 looks closer to A. forrestii in a lighter pinkish-purple color.

And  here - http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/Allium/Allium_profiles_4.jpg  iss a photo of Mark's that shows A. przewalskianum as  #"E"
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2014, 11:39:02 AM »
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2014, 04:40:12 PM »
Can any one help me identify this Allium. I found it growing in a garden in damp semi shade last July. It stands about 30cm high and has leaves similar to A. sphaerocephalon. The owner of the garden let me have a couple of bulbs which are now happily growing in my garden.

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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2014, 10:35:36 PM »
I've got another Allium query to add to Jackie's ( in the previous post)

What might this be? Found the question posed in the twitter page of RV Roger  :)


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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #66 on: June 14, 2014, 10:42:30 PM »
Can any one help me identify this Allium. I found it growing in a garden in damp semi shade last July. It stands about 30cm high and has leaves similar to A. sphaerocephalon. The owner of the garden let me have a couple of bulbs which are now happily growing in my garden.

 Perhaps Allium carinatum pulchellum  :-\
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #67 on: June 15, 2014, 08:01:00 PM »
Can any one help me identify this Allium. I found it growing in a garden in damp semi shade last July. It stands about 30cm high and has leaves similar to A. sphaerocephalon. The owner of the garden let me have a couple of bulbs which are now happily growing in my garden.

I would say a good floriferous form of Allium vineale
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2014, 08:42:43 PM »
I would say a good floriferous form of Allium vineale
Great eyes, Oron - I only see the bulbils now! ( and I did get new spectacles..... ::) )
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2014, 08:45:12 PM »
  ;D

I think the second one is A. bolanderi
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2014, 01:47:43 AM »
Can any one help me identify this Allium. I found it growing in a garden in damp semi shade last July. It stands about 30cm high and has leaves similar to A. sphaerocephalon. The owner of the garden let me have a couple of bulbs which are now happily growing in my garden.

Definitely not Allium carinatum ssp. pulchellum. I am intrigued by Oron's suggestion of a good floriferous form of A. vineale, but if so...WOW, never have seen a form of vineale that floriferous with so many flowers, thus ny doubts. I have seen forms of A. vineale that have more flowers than bulbils percentage-wise, but none like that.  On first glance, it appeared to me as a lax (perhaps immature) form of A. ampeloprasum, or one of a dozen closely related species once considered a variety or subspecies of ampeloprasum.  A photo of the foliage would help considerably, as vineale and ampeloprasum-et-al have drastically different foliage.
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2014, 09:47:59 PM »
here is my unknown allium when in full bloom...about 25 cm's tall, and tubular greygreen leaves...

any thoughts about ID? maybe acutiflorum?

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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2014, 10:29:58 AM »
Allium acutiflorum
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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2014, 05:21:40 PM »
I noticed this Allium on Mt. Emei, Sichuan at mid-elevation, always cultivated. It is quite a large plant about 40 cm high with wide conduplicate leaves. I suppose it could be Allium omeiense. From the species listed in the Plants of Mount Emei book I don't see what else it could be?

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Re: Allium 2014
« Reply #74 on: June 19, 2014, 10:15:29 PM »
more likely, a form of A. oleraceum, closely allied and similar to Allium paniculatum, but with bulbils and rather variable in flower color, from light pink, to deeper pinks, to tawny brownish coppery forms

A year and 10 months on the first bulbils have reached flowering size. They are in the green house plunged in a terracotta put and despite watering the plants have chosen to go dormant except for the flower stems. Should I keep watering them? They'll have to be moved to a trough once they go dormant.

Mid August flowering when I got the bulbils but flowers are now opening in the greenhouse
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