Snowdrops with yellow on the outer petals

[Hagen Engelmann]

Drops with yllow blotches on the outer segments.
Hre is GOLDEN CHALICE.
Breeder is Jörg Lebsa. In my eyes it is not only yllow, it is golden.

Alan, please note, there is a difference betweeen my picture and the picture in the journal "drop Out".
But only one can be the original!!!

And the difference to GOLDEN FLEECE is still  bigger.

If we want to speak about galanthus,
all we need are information and knowledge.
An e  more or less is not important.

The breeder said
this culticar is part of the inverse poculiform group.
Also in my eyes. Hope you galanthophiles can agree also!

It is a golden beauty.

[Alan_b]

'Golden Chalice' does look to be a lovely golden yellow, Hagen.  I only have a modest collection of snowdrops myself and before you posted this I had only ever seen a single picture of what was supposed to be 'Golden Chalice' - the one in 'The Drop Out' No. 2 (which I had forgotten about until I looked up 'Golden Fleece' therein).  What snowdrop is pictured in 'The Drop Out' if it is not 'Golden Chalice'?   

[Hagen Engelmann]

Alan, at first you should go in contact to the publisher.
He should know what he has offered at the journal.

Second, listen to my little story.
In the beginning there was a little group of seedlings.
Jörg was happy and took pictures of the first flowers.
But the best seedling was not the first flower.....
In "drop Out" you can see one of the first flowers.....


All of our beauties have a little story, have a little soul.
This is the inner life of the our cultivars... and if you could be a good storyteller.............


OK???

[Alan_b]

Thanks for that explanation, Hagen.  I suspect it's quite a frequent occurrence that where a group of seedlings that are similar but not identical is bred (or discovered) then the 'best' one is named and the others are not publicised so we never know of their existence.  I wonder if they are typically destroyed or just confined to some remote corner of the garden/plot? 



 

[Carolyn Walker]

I see a new list in the making!!!  I thought 'Ecusson d'Or' was the only snowdrop with yellow on the outers, and I feel fortunate to have planted one in September.  Now 'Golden Chalice' .... where will this end?  Is there another double yellow besides 'Lady Elphinstone'?

[Alan_b]

No, not as far as I know and even 'Lady Elphinstone' obeys Maggi's principle of unreliable markings being not always yellow.  There are many snowdrop variations that don't seem to exist as doubles; for example I cannot think of a double poculiform snowdrop (although somebody will probably enlighten me).

By the way, most of the names mentioned here are wholly unavailable so for most practical purposed 'Ecusson d'Or' is the only snowdrop with yellow on the outers.

[emma T]

I'm sure all of the above are being bred somewhere by someone

[jamouatt]

Is there another double yellow besides 'Lady Elphinstone'?

I have one with the label G N Netherhall Double Yellow but it has not flowered yet and I know nothing about it. Saw it on Monksilver's table and bought it on impulse.

John(M)

[mark smyth]

I found this list of yellow snowdrops on Google, linked to a word doc on SRGC
Galanthus 'Andrew Thorpe'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Anglesey Orange Tip'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Beloglavi'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Belvedere Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus Bill Bishop yellow form   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Bill Clark'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Blackthorn'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Blasses Wesen'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Blonde Inge'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Bohemia Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Carolyn Elwes'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ceri Roberts'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Chadwick's Cream'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Chatton'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Chrome Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Daglingworth Yellow' = Galanthus 'Ronald Mackenzie'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Daisy Sunshine'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Das Gelbe vom Ei'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Doddington'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ecusson d'Or'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Elizabeth Harrison'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Elles' = Galanthus 'Elles Dream'?   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Elles Dream'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Fiona's Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Flavescens'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Gelbe Marlu'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Gilt Edge' ex Gunter Waldorf   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Gold Edge' ex Gunter Waldorf = Galanthus 'Gilt Edge'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Gold Edge' ex Phil Cornish   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Goldcrest'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Golden Boy'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Goldmine'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Grakes Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Grakes Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Green Witch'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Günter's Geist'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Günters Geist' = Galanthus 'Günter's Geist'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Helios'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Honigmund'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Howick Starlight'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Howick Yellow' = Galanthus Gold Group   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ilse Bilse'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Janet Aspland'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Janet's Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Joe's Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Joy Cozens'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'June Boardman'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Karla Tausendshön'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Kristin Meier'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Kullake'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Lady Elphinstone'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Lichtgeel'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Lowick'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Lowick'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Lutescens'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Madelaine'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Madelaine'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Malovše'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Marmin'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Miss Elly'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Netherhall Double Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Netherhall Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus neu 3170004   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Nightlight'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Norfolk Blonde'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ochrospeilus'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ochrospilus'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Pale Cross'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Pale Face'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Pluto'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Primrose Warburg'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ray Cobb'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Rheingold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Robert Wijnen'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ronald Mackenzie'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ronald MacKenzie' = Galanthus 'Ronald Mackenzie'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Ruby's Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Rumeni A'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Rumenoglavi'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Sandersii'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Sandersii' ex Davis [excl. synonyms]   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Sarah Dumont'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Savill Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Schorbuser Irrlicht'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Senne's Sunrise'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Sharman's Late'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Spetchley Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Spindlestone Surprise'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Steve's Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'The Whin's Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Treasure Island'   Gold Group
Galanthus Trym yellow form   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Utrecht Goud'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Utrecht Lime'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Wandlebury Ring'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Webb's Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Wendy's Gold'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Windesheim'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Windmill' ex vd Kolk nom.illeg   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Windsor Yellow'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Wisp'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Woodpeckers'   Gold Group
Galanthus 'Yellow Angel'   Gold Group

[Carolyn Walker]

Is there another double yellow besides 'Lady Elphinstone'?

I have one with the label G N Netherhall Double Yellow but it has not flowered yet and I know nothing about it. Saw it on Monksilver's table and bought it on impulse.

John(M)

please post photos when it blooms, it sounds potentially exciting.

[Diane Whitehead]

A new topic began today:

Snowdrops with yellow on the outer petals

[Diane Whitehead]

All right - my new project.  I'll beg some Rosemary B pollen from a friend and dab it on my several yellows. 

Maybe a group of us will do so, and we can trade pollen of our results about 2020?

[emma T]

I have a picture of a lovely lutesent snowdrop .......sadly it was just sick and didn't live , but I have the picture . I might email it to mag give later so she can make it fit so you can all see it

[Alan_b]

I have one with the label G N Netherhall Double Yellow but it has not flowered yet and I know nothing about it.

This must have originated from Timothy Clark who lives at Netherhall Manor in Soham https://www.rhs.org.uk/gardens/GardenDetails?id=61 .  He has the most fantastic collection of 'historic' plants of many different species.  You may have seen Timothy Clark at one of the shows, he is pictured here http://www.newmarketjournal.co.uk/news/latest-news/it-s-a-magical-history-tour-1-5249260 .  He also has a single called 'Netherhall Yellow'.