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Olga Bondareva

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Allium from Tian-Shan
« on: January 13, 2007, 12:17:32 PM »
It was found at the Dolon pass, 3500 m, Tian-Shan.


http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/2053226/32983952.jpg

I would be thankful for it's identification.
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2007, 12:34:28 PM »
Hello Olga. We will need a bigger image to be able to see.
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2007, 03:09:32 PM »
Hello Anne,
Of course. And a link to a larger image is under the small one.
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2007, 03:12:00 PM »
If its better:
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2007, 05:34:45 PM »
Olga,Alliums are very difficult to identify and I doubt if anyone will have a definitive answer for you. 
It is a very attractive plant and well worth growing.
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2007, 05:51:53 PM »
Olga ,

Sorry but I can not help you with a ID of this Allium - but here comes a question of me :
Did you ever seen on your travels in the east any members of the genus Ungernia ( Amaryllidaceae ) ?
Any information is very welcome -we have her more or less no knowlegde about this bulbs . Thank you .

With best wishes
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 09:15:17 AM »
Ian, what a pity! Yes, it is very attractive but could be more with a name.

Hans, sorry I’ve never seen any Ungernias. They are very rare and grow in countries dangerous to visitors.
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2007, 09:26:31 AM »
Hi Olga ,

Many thanks for your informations .
After my informations grows this plants near Chimgan / Taschkent .
If you ever see such plants - please take a picture .

Spassiba
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2007, 11:15:16 AM »
Hans  :) of course! And not only picture if possible.
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2007, 06:52:45 AM »
I have seed plants of Ungernia around Big Chimgan NE of Tashkent in the summer of 2005 when I was there. It grows quite commonly on dry, grazed slopes, and is evidently shunned by the herbivores. The flowers are reddish brown, and quite attractive. There were some specimens in flower at the beginning of August, but most had gone to seed- though not mature yet. I have some slides I took of the plant. From what I've read it is supposed to be quite difficult to grow, but maybe it just hasn't been tried enough.

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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2007, 07:53:28 AM »
Hi Paul ,

What a nice surprise !
Please send some pictures if possibly - it was very interesting to see this plants in her habitat .
Thank you in advance

Hans ,Germany
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Re: Allium from Tian-Shan
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2010, 05:23:00 PM »
Quote from: Olga Bondareva on January 13, 2007, 12:17:32 PM
It was found at the Dolon pass, 3500 m, Tian-Shan.


http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/2053226/32983952.jpg

I would be thankful for it's identification.


Olga, just found this old post while searching for Ungernia :)

Your Allium looks like a form of A. saxatile, found in Tian Shan and widespread in the area.  One of the key diagnostic characteristics are the long bud spathes, although in your photo they have presumably already been shed, so this will have to be just a guess.  Your plant, if found at 3500 m, is slightly higher elevation than reported in FOC, but is seems within the realm of possibility.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=240001055
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