We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Ornithogalum 2010  (Read 4389 times)

cohan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3401
  • Country: ca
  • forest gnome
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2010, 06:42:23 AM »
this Ornithogalum to be of small dimensions
Ornithogalum graminifolium

nice to see these small ones, alessandro--i have a couple of potfuls of south africans coming from seed--one was an unnamed sp  with 'beautiful leaves' i thought that meant one of the dark and/or pustulate forms or something--so far it looks similar to your graminifolia! just sown this year; the other is supposed to be unifoliatum with dark flat leaves, but also looks more like a baby onion, though shorter leaves than the other...
should i expect them to change next year, or would the leaves have the same look as now--sown late winter?

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2010, 07:37:56 PM »
nice Ornithogalums

Now 2 close related in flower:

O. orthophyllum, suffered from winter frosts which early foiliage wilted
O. umbellatum, in my crocus meadow
Best wishes
Armin

Herminarik

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 70
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 08:23:46 PM »
Hallo, I am not specialist in Genus Ornithogallum, so I am not able to label these two Ornithogallums we photographed last May in Croatia. The first picture is from NP Paklenica (Velebit Mountains) and the other is from Pag Island (the Ornithogalums here have a very net leafs – no more as 2 mm). Cheers Igor

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 08:33:18 PM »
Igor,
nice images. I'm also no specialist but the first resmbles O. umbellatum, the second no idea. Maybe Oron knows?
Best wishes
Armin

Lesley Cox

  • way down south !
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16348
  • Country: nz
  • Gardening forever, house work.....whenever!
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2010, 12:40:03 AM »
Can someone identify this little species for me please. I've had it several years and it flowers but doesn't increase much. Usually the leaves are up around the flowers but a rabbit has grazed them down this year. I think that's an improvement though. :)

246276-0
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

Ray

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 285
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2010, 05:06:22 AM »
Hi Lesley,O sibthorpii? bye Ray
Ray Evans
Colac
Victoria Australia

Oron Peri

  • Middle Eastern Correspondent for the Forum
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1500
  • Country: 00
  • Living in the Galilee Region, min. temp. 5c max 40
    • Seeds of Peace
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 06:50:24 PM »
Hi Lesley,O sibthorpii? bye Ray

Lesley,

I agree with Ray, O. sibthorpii, it is possible to see the typical form of the [eaten] channeled leaves.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 07:13:26 PM by Oron Peri »
Tivon, in the lower Galilee, north Israel.
200m.

Oron Peri

  • Middle Eastern Correspondent for the Forum
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1500
  • Country: 00
  • Living in the Galilee Region, min. temp. 5c max 40
    • Seeds of Peace
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2010, 06:58:55 PM »
Igor,
nice images. I'm also no specialist but the first resmbles O. umbellatum, the second no idea. Maybe Oron knows?

Sorry to notice this message only now.
The first does look as O. umbellatum, as for the second it is difficult to say at this point, in this case fruiting stage is important as pedicals get longer or curved and make id much easier, any way good possibilities to  be O. divergens or O. comosum.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 07:14:09 PM by Oron Peri »
Tivon, in the lower Galilee, north Israel.
200m.

Lesley Cox

  • way down south !
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16348
  • Country: nz
  • Gardening forever, house work.....whenever!
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2010, 09:23:34 PM »
Thanks Ray and Oron. I'll zip out now and put a label on it. :)
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

Oron Peri

  • Middle Eastern Correspondent for the Forum
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1500
  • Country: 00
  • Living in the Galilee Region, min. temp. 5c max 40
    • Seeds of Peace
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2010, 04:44:05 PM »
Thanks Ray and Oron. I'll zip out now and put a label on it. :)
Lesley

I think you should put on a new label, the accepted name for O. sibthorpii now is O. sigmoideum.
Tivon, in the lower Galilee, north Israel.
200m.

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8435
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2010, 10:47:51 PM »
Oron,

Oh, should I change my label as well?  Any idea how long it will be before someone changes it back? ::)

Sorry, so many name changes that I'm getting cynical in my old age. :o

Despite my flippancy, I do appreciate name corrections.  I like to know the names of my plants and appreciate those thow take the time to give me the names.  It is just that some of the labels are going to fill up if I start putting all the synonyms on them. ;D
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Lesley Cox

  • way down south !
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16348
  • Country: nz
  • Gardening forever, house work.....whenever!
Re: Ornithogalum 2010
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2010, 11:59:54 PM »
Thanks Ray and Oron. I'll zip out now and put a label on it. :)
Lesley

I think you should put on a new label, the accepted name for O. sibthorpii now is O. sigmoideum.

Oh damn! Just for once I did it when I said I would, so yes, another label. Thanks Oron (I think!).
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal